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  • Shawn Miller

    March 1, 2013 at 11:15 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Go back and look again. There’s an FX plug-in architecture, color correction, node-based compositing and mixing capabilities. It can master to AVC-Intra with the $60/year Pro version. Add to that multi-cam and stereo3D and this certainly makes it far more than a basic editor for 90% of the work most editors do. Plus they will preview a Mac version at NAB.”

    I didn’t know about the node based compositing… that is worth a look.

    Shawn

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    March 1, 2013 at 11:16 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “node-based compositing”

    ?????? – I go to google.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Oliver Peters

    March 1, 2013 at 11:26 pm

    [Aindreas Gallagher] “[Oliver Peters] “node-based compositing”

    ?????? – I go to google.”

    https://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=24&Itemid=179

    Scroll down towards the bottom of this page of features.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
    Orlando, FL
    http://www.oliverpeters.com

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    March 1, 2013 at 11:40 pm

    that’s a bit mad – it feels as looney as wikipedia once did? you sort of can’t believe that could keep standing up straight.

    Lightworks was the first in action edit system I ever saw, in ’98. college had avid. my old station had three, in wired in porta-cabins out the back, in the connemara bog.

    god be with the days of doors attics and sharks.
    I’d love to see the likes of this re-order affairs – as long as no one ever asks me to learn another editing software system, because then I might actually go postal.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Chris Conlee

    March 1, 2013 at 11:50 pm

    [Chris Jacek] “I haven’t tried Lightworks yet, but I am intrigued. Do you guys really think it’s ready for prime time?”

    Definitely ready for prime time, but unfortunately PC only at the moment. A Mac version is promised, but no definitive timetable has been given as far as I know.

    You could also go with Avid at $295 per seat for academic, and VidSharX for a shared networking system. This would give your students a REAL perspective on what it’s like in the broadcast world with shared systems.

    https://www.vidsharx.com/

    Chris

  • Steve Connor

    March 1, 2013 at 11:51 pm

    Too many Editors suffering from PFCPSD (Post Final Cut Stress Disorder) to take in another choice of NLE, even if it is free.

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Chris Jacek

    March 2, 2013 at 12:10 am

    I don’t argue the “eureka moment” premise, for someone who is fully engrained in post and likes to play with toys. But even as one of those people, I’m unlikely to pay the Mac tax just on the chance of that eureka moment happening for me. I got my first Windows machine in 20 years last summer, and can honestly say that the transition hasn’t been bad at all. As a loyal Mac apologist for those 20 years, I always felt that the extra money you paid for a Mac was worth it. I cannot say that I believe that any more.

    Lion and Mountain Lions are flawed in my opinion. Over the past year, all of the annoyances that I used to have with Windows machines are not part of the Mac experiences, and surprisingly, many of the little “wow, that’s cool” moments are happening for me on Windows (W7, I haven’t really used 8 much).

    Even if the battle was a draw on the OS side of things, I’m not going to pay the heavy premium to buy a Mac whose operating system is now clearly geared toward things that Apple things are important, rather than things that I think are important. Once upon a time, Apple could do both at the same time. Now, they are only interested in making you do things the way THEY think you should do things. To me that is very Windows ’98 thinking.

    With no plans to buy any new Apple hardware in the foreseeable future, I suspect that the eureka moment will probably pass me by while I play with the new GoPro I bought with the money I saved by purchasing a beefy Windows laptop (which incidentally handles my GoPro footage much more easily in After Effects than a Mac does).

    Professor, Producer, Editor
    and former Apple Employee

  • Aindreas Gallagher

    March 2, 2013 at 12:13 am

    hey hey – that is the first edit system I ever played with when I was still mograph. there is an issue that we are in a sea here – hence I have not gotten off my behind.
    I’m inclined to belly float with FCP classic until the last possible moment.

    Ask any 3D guy if they are Lightworks… and 3DSMax… and Maya… and Cinema 4D.

    That is a ludicrous proposition. I was a 3DSMax guy in the day.

    I understand 3DSMax particle systems, their deform stack, their camera system, their keyframe system.

    We cannot ersatz, and en masse, learn all editing incarnations here.
    that is just way too crazy. And to be fair Steve – even by your sound of it – BVE was not dripping with FCPX.

    I personally think it broadly plops for PPro – it seems to make the most sense to me given their focus, and the indicators are getting pretty damn strong.

    https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics

  • Steve Connor

    March 2, 2013 at 12:29 am

    Aindreas I feel your pain, if I was a Freelancer in London I wouldn’t be spending much time with FCPX either. I would have re-learned Avid and brushed up my PPro skills but it’s still anyone’s guess by the look of it, there were no clues at BVE. However I had a nice chat with one of the guys in charge at. Bournemouth University and he said they switched from FCP7 to Avid.

    Luckily I get to choose what I edit on mostly so I’m happy with FCPX, however now I’m on top of it I’m brushing up on PPro too just in case Adobe are the first to give me native 4K XAVC editing on my Mac, I’m also toying with SpeedGrade as well so I’m hoping for a nice round trip solution with PPro on the next release.

    Steve Connor
    ‘It’s just my opinion, with an occasional fact thrown in for good measure”

  • Andrew Kimery

    March 2, 2013 at 12:29 am

    [Bill Davis] “BEM camp or NBEM camp.
    (Before Eureka! Moment or Not Before Eureka! Moment)”

    Yes, if only the dirty heathens would hurry up and realize how wrong they are for not recognizing the pending perfection that is FCPX.

    Lord.. and I thought nothing could approach the asinine level of late 90’s PC/Mac flame wars.

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