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But Walter.
If its true that the very first decision was to “zero out” the existing code base and write on an entirely new foundation – re-examining every design and implementation decision in light of where the hardware, software, and even the market has evolved – then it has to be fair to allow the same amount of time for this code base to evolve and stabilize that all other programs have needed to mature.
This constant need to compare X to Legacy and lament the change (talking of others here, not you.) is understandable – but getting old.
Those who can’t live with the change need to move on. Premier has their switch discount in place again. Avid remains a safe and fully developed choice.
I’m simply saying that after this long, those remaining fixated on what Legacy “used to be” are in danger of getting stuck in the past. Someone experiences an unwanted divorce and yes, grief is natural and accepted. Maintaining the shrine in the back bedroom and visiting it daily – once inevitability is fully established – is a sign one is having trouble moving on.
FWIW.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Shane Ross] “David, the movie would still have won if it was cut on an Avid. However, if it was cut by other editors, it might not have won
“Shane, we all know that. The point is more along the lines of one of those commercials where a pickup truck is pulling an outrageously massive load–like, say, an airplane–just to demonstrate that it can do it, though you–yourself–may never be required to actually do so.
And, while FCP X may someday be able to pull an airplane, it currently is not. Nor is it the choice of people who do pull airplanes.
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Chris’s post, in my opinion is totally correct.
If you tow airplanes today, or practically believe you will need to tow them tomorrow – then one of those airplane towing carts is the only rational choice.
But buying an airplane towing vehicle to shop for groceries, run daily errands, and take vacations to the coast is just as crazy.
Choice is better than no choice.
There were 3 trucks and a bunch of golf carts in the editing tools offered by most dealers for a lot of years.
Now there’s a sports car. It’s a poorer choice for dragging heavy planes around right now. But it’s innovative, smaller, less expensive and has interesting new feature combinations. Apple may make heavier and more powerful versions of the new vehicle over time – and towing capabilities may improve. They’ve publically announced their committmtnt to users who need beefier capabilities – but nobody knows for sure.
Learn to drive the new class of vehicles or not.
That’s up to you.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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[Bill Davis] “Someone experiences an unwanted divorce and yes, grief is natural and accepted. Maintaining the shrine in the back bedroom and visiting it daily – once inevitability is fully established – is a sign one is having trouble moving on.”
On the other hand, even 5 years later, a couple of beers might provoke a line like this –
Woody Allen claimed he read that his ex-wife had been sexually assaulted outside her apartment and the newspapers reported that she “had been violated.” In response Allen said, “knowing my ex-wife, it probably wasn’t a moving violation.”
Herb Sevush
Zebra Productions
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[Bill Davis] “I’m simply saying that after this long, those remaining fixated on what Legacy “used to be” are in danger of getting stuck in the past. “
Bill, just my opinion here, but I’d really like it if you’d stop telling people how “fixated” they are. You are constantly turning people’s grumblings about X into some sort of psychological issue that has deep, broad evolutionary implications. Most of us are just trying to work. Most of the people on this board are experimenters, and always have been. A good 87.5% of us are completely “New gizmo? Bring it on!” You’re dealing with people who regularly Beta-test, write plug-ins, and snap up the newest interfaces and i/o devices to play with and see “what if?” Yet, you keep talking to us like we’re a bunch of trogs who are about to end up in History’s scrap heap because our stodgy habits keep us from receiving Jesus.
Bill, I’m glad you like X and find some joy in it. I enjoyed reading your piece the other day, and in general I enjoy reading about your positive experiences with X. I still enjoy 7, which I do not like to call Legacy, because I still see another year of life in it in my immediate work environment. At the end of that time, I’m guessing I will be 70% Avid, 20% 7, and a little room for Premiere (and maybe more, depending on where CS 6 goes) I doubt there will be any X, but if there is I’ll make room for it. It’d be cool if there were.
I should also add that I think you make very good points about who X is right for. And, you’ve convinced me–on a number of occasions–to take a closer, second look. I think you have terrific things to say, even when I disagree with them. I’m just not so crazy about the “fixated” part.
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Yeah my favorite area on the Apple site was always the FCP Studio pages. Made you feel good knowing legends like Coppola, Murch and Fincher were using the same low cost software on their big budget shows. Sad there’s only a staged Audi spot where all that great testimonial stuff used to be… an Oscar on each side of the logo would have looked cool…
So in theory, Apple should be back at the Oscars around 2021. Thanks, for the memories…
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The was this car that could tow trucks, haul the kids to soccer practice, hit the drive through then cruise up to wine country. But it’s sitting in a junkyard now, replaced by a hybrid that has just enough battery power to get to the office but you better bring your extension cord. Don’t have one? Don’t worry, I heard rumor they may build one in in a future model. Oh and the driver seat with massage is awesome! For some reason there’s no carpet in the cabin, but the good news is they have super plush shag in the trunk!
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[Bill Davis] “If its true that the very first decision was to “zero out” the existing code base and write on an entirely new foundation – re-examining every design and implementation decision in light of where the hardware, software, and even the market has evolved – then it has to be fair to allow the same amount of time for this code base to evolve and stabilize that all other programs have needed to mature.”
I don’t really get the concept of it “being fair to allow the same amount of time.” It is perfectly fair to reject the software for its immaturity. Apple chose to trade maturity (and everything that comes with it) for a new architecture (and everything that comes with it).
Also, remember that Apple allowed FCP7 to get crufty in the first place. While FCP7 was still throwing KGCore errors (Key Grip!), Avid had written Media Composer piece by piece and Adobe had rewritten Premiere Pro twice.
My clients expect me to improve myself on my own time. I’d be punished in the marketplace if I started offering less tomorrow than I do today with the promise of more next year — and I’d deserve it.
[Bill Davis] “This constant need to compare X to Legacy and lament the change (talking of others here, not you.) is understandable – but getting old.”
Likewise, I feel the constant comparison of FCPX to FCPv1, while interesting in terms of history, is off-target in terms of practicality. None of us (Apple and its competitors included) are in the same positions we were in back in 1999.
Also, FCPX is simply not competing against FCP1. It’s competing against Premiere Pro, Media Composer, maybe Edius, Vegas, and Lightworks, and existing seats of FCP7. FCPX is rightfully compared to any of these products as they exist today, not their launch versions.
For those who need features or workflows that FCP7 supported and FCPX does not, Apple has taken two steps backward and one step forward. Ostensibly, Apple plans to take additional forward steps in the future, and it may be exciting to think about how far they may go. That said, looking at FCPX practically as it exists today, it’s still just one step backwards.
[Bill Davis] “I’m simply saying that after this long, those remaining fixated on what Legacy “used to be” are in danger of getting stuck in the past. Someone experiences an unwanted divorce and yes, grief is natural and accepted. Maintaining the shrine in the back bedroom and visiting it daily – once inevitability is fully established – is a sign one is having trouble moving on.”
I half-agree with this. FCP7 is a dead platform with no future, and I think it’s foolish to build a business on a hopeless platform.
On the other hand, some editors have a very good reason to stay with FCP7 for the time being — it does have some unique features and strengths, and it may help them provide value to clients and earn money better than anything else on the market.
Walter Soyka
Principal & Designer at Keen Live
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Alex Gollner] “It would have won if edited on the Windows version of Avid, but I imagine few films are.”
Why? Although you may be right in sheer numbers, I’ve spoken to numerous international film editors who cut on PC versions of Avid. Lightworks has been and continues to be (for now) a PC-only product. The general driver tends to be the rental houses equipping the film’s production company and those (at least in NY and LA) tend to be on Mac-based Avid systems.
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[Lance Bachelder] “But it’s sitting in a junkyard now, replaced by a hybrid that has just enough battery power to get to the office but you better bring your extension cord. “
Given.
The problem is if oil really does continue to suck more and more money out of your life, you look around and eventually ask why everybody ignored supporting an alternative development path.
Right now, every gas station is still pumping. And while we might not “like” prices pushing up towards $5 a gallon – overall we tolerate it.
But when I was in my 20s I remember my first trip to England and seeing gas prices two and a half times what I was accustomed to back at home. The price of the asset seemed totally decoupled from the costs of production. I suspect it still is. So having an alternate game grow up and become a viable choice sounds pretty good, even if here in the development phase, I can’t own and operate an electric vehicle at significantly less than the cost of a traditional one.
The only thing you can’t argue with is that nobody’s making any additional fossil fuels any more. So while it might not be in my lifetime, there will come a day when we’d better have some kind of alternatives in place – or our society will face a crisis – whether it’s me, my kid, or some future grandkids.
Heck, If I ran an oil company, I’d try to extract maximum value in these years too – then when the wall gets closer, I’ll be sitting on enough bank to buy and control whatever replaces it.
That just makes sense.
If you can see the problem coming, intelligent people usually prefer to start solving it before it becomes critical – but that doesn’t mean there’s only one “right” way to solve it.
And having more alternatives is typically better than having fewer.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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