Oscar irony

[Carsten Orlt]

I always thought the award is for best editing and NOT for best software?

Must have got that wrong all those years….

[John Pale]

Did kem, steenbeck and moviola keep score?

I would guess they still have a big lead.

[Oliver Peters]

Of course it does. But editors have a say in the NLE they choose and that benefits the company and attracts future users. Too bad Apple decided to poke a finger in the eye of film editors.

Oliver

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[David Roth weiss]

[Oliver Peters] “Too bad Apple decided to poke a finger in the eye of film editors.”

It’s too bad for Apple and too bad for editors at every level.

Also, it’s too bad FCP didn’t get mentioned in the In Memorium section of the Oscars – I would have cried again this year.

David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
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David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[Jon Smitherton]

Funny, I think the irony is that the film has been edited before…and was perfected fine.

Jon

[Bill Davis]

FCP was introduced in April of 1999 at NAB.

IIRC, Walter Murch’s Cold Mountain was cut in 2003 on FCP Legacy and IMDB notes that as the first oscar nomination where the “sub-$1000 FCP was used.

So that would indicate that it took at least 4 solid years of development IN APPLE (discounting the work done by the Macromedia team on KeyGrip before Ubillos and the team took it to Apple) before the software developed into something “Oscar level work worthy.”

No telling if X will ever again develop in the “big movie” direction – since that’s such a niche part of the overall industry of editing visuals today.

FWIW.

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[Shane Ross]

This is one thing I just don’t get. Doesn’t matter what tool was used to make the film. They don’t say “man, that Craftsman Wrench was behind the Ford F150 winning the JD Power and Associates award for 2012…”

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[David Lawrence]

[Bill Davis] “No telling if X will ever again develop in the “big movie” direction – since that’s such a niche part of the overall industry of editing visuals today.”

Maybe it’s a niche but it’s a niche comprised of the best of the best in the industry. Oscars make for excellent ad copy last I checked. Guess Apple plans to make up for the loss of prestige users with volume.

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[David Roth weiss]

q[Shane Ross] “This is one thing I just don’t get. Doesn’t matter what tool was used to make the film. They don’t say “man, that Craftsman Wrench was behind the Ford F150 winning the JD Power and Associates award for 2012…”
“

Sure it does, because now the tool those guys used to win two years in row has been “end of lifed” by its developers, and that’s is ironic, just as Oliver said.

Why is it ironic? Because it’s very hard to win an Academy Award for Best Editing two years running – and the guys that won chose to edit on a NLE they obviously liked and found extremely useful, but which Apple has decided to kill for some unknown reason in spite of the fact that it was extremely well-liked by many thousands of editors, including some of the very best in the world.

That my friends is ironic, and Oliver was right on target by identifying it as such.

David Roth Weiss
ProMax Systems
Burbank
DRW@ProMax.com
http://www.ProMax.com

David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

[David Roth weiss]

[Bill Davis] “No telling if X will ever again develop in the “big movie” direction – since that’s such a niche part of the overall industry of editing visuals today.”

Apple would obviously rather sell to millions of people just like you Bill, and it looks like they’ll probably get their wish.