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Opinions on this HD setup
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Get the best G5 you can and about 3.5GB-4.5GB RAM.
SATA Raid…far cheaper than fibrechannel. The plusses of the fibrechannel are the distance they can be from your edit system. But SATA RAIDS can get the same speed for HD, for about half the cost.
Any stock card will power your Dell, but the better card you get the better programs like MOTION will run. FCP doesn’t rely on the video card.
Sony PVM-14L5 Multiformat monitor. This monitor does HD and SD via component. And 16:9 Great monitor.Shane
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[Shane Ross] “Sony PVM-14L5 Multiformat monitor. This monitor does HD and SD via component. And 16:9 Great monitor.”
This monitor is $1550 at BH, the specs look great, and it is probably a necessary item for the desktop, but it is not that large.
What are the drawbacks to using consumer HD monitors?
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[Bob Cole] “This monitor is $1550 at BH, the specs look great, and it is probably a necessary item for the desktop, but it is not that large.”
Then get a larger plasma screen to go with it, I would recommend the Pansonic series as they are incredible. We run this monitor in one suite and the 20″ version in the other suite, but the 20 is no longer available. Putting the 14″ right on the editing desk it works beautifully and size isn’t an issue.
A larger screen is just nice for the client.
As for a consumer HD monitor, they are not professionally calibrated nor do they hold their calibration as long as the pro models. If you want to do pro HD work, you need a pro SMPTE C monitor.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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If you already have and HDTV use that instead of buying a HD monitor, unless there is some specific thing you need from the monitor, I have had good sucess with that and it saves money…. unless you don’t have a HDTV… in which case go with the monitor…
The monitor is really only going to make a difference if you’re doing real HD not HDV or consumer HD….
Simon Carlson-Thies
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[Simon Carlson-Thies] “The monitor is really only going to make a difference if you’re doing real HD not HDV or consumer HD….”
That really makes no sense. If you are going to do HD Post, for any reason, you need an professional HD monitor. Doesn’t matter what “type” of HD you’re doing, you want the colors to be accurate on the monitor.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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[Shane Ross] “SATA RAIDS can get the same speed for HD, for about half the cost.”
Actually, it’s more like 1/3 the cost! For the feature I’m working on, we looked at SCSI, fiber & SATA. SATA gives us 4TB for around $3K, including the controller card. With fiber it would have been closer to $10K! Plus another $1k for the controller.
If you’re willing to build your own array, you can buy a case from datoptic.com, pc-pitstop.com or cooldrives.com, & fill it with drives from either newegg.com or zipzoomfly.com. Most of those vendors sell the controller cards, as well.
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HDV is so compressed the color is not that good to begin with, you lose half the information before you even start… you’re taking twice the information of DV and putting in the same space as DV, in other words you lose a lot of color information…. by definition, and having a professional HD monitor does not change that fact… you’ll still run into to the problem of compression…
The differnce the professional monitor is going to make in consumer HD is not as big as when you’re dealing with professional HD, which has more color and detail… so having the ability to display more makes more of a difference… and thus makes more sense…
Simon Carlson-Thies
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[Simon Carlson-Thies] “The differnce the professional monitor is going to make in consumer HD is not as big as when you’re dealing with professional HD, which has more color and detail… so having the ability to display more makes more of a difference… and thus makes more sense…”
Still doesn’t make sense to me. I’m about to start doing Post on an international series which will be shot in HDV and delivered via HDCAM. HDV does not mean consumer HD.
We’re going to convert the HDV to DVCPro HD for the Post workflow and then deliver right off our Kona 3 to HDCAM. DVCPro HD is also a compressed format, but it’s not consumer.
Just because something is produced in HDV does not make it a “consumer level” product in the same vein as iMovie is a consumer level editor.
So if you plan to work HD, no matter the format, a consumer HD monitor is simply not preferred, especially if you would like to charge clients for your services. If you don’t want to invest in proper monitoring, why should the client invest in you?
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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My point is fit the cost to the project if you’re doing an professional DV project don’t go out and buy an HD editing suite it won’t help you, you’re better off investing the money elsewhere… Same with HDV if you’re doing a professional project in HDV then invest what is need… I am simply arguing that for editing what amounts to be between 19-25mb/sec Mpeg 2 footage buying a profession monitor designed to monitor footage that runs upwards of 60mb/sec seems excessive for the purposes… professional or not….
as to consumer level… just because its consumer level doesn’t mean you can’t use it in a professional context… it just means that its targeted for a certain market…
[walter biscardi] “So if you plan to work HD, no matter the format, a consumer HD monitor is simply not preferred, especially if you would like to charge clients for your services. If you don’t want to invest in proper monitoring, why should the client invest in you?”
there is the center of our debate… I am merely arguing that one should invest in equipment that is appropriate for the medium…. I am not saying just buy cheap stuff and don’t worry about monitoring properly…. I would be the last person to say that… I spend lots of money to make sure that what i am using is right for the job…
I personally don’t think that the pro HD monitor is going to be as important in the context of a highly compressed form of HD…. but this is me….
Simon Carlson-Thies,
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If you’re planning on doin professional broadcast work, you need a broadcast monitor. Consumer HD TV’s just won’t give you true colors. If you go to Circuit City or Best Buy and look at the wall of HDTVs you will not see the same image twice. BUT, if you look at a dozen properly calibrated broadcast monitors you will see exactly the same colors and imagry. You’d be hard pressed to make consumer level HDTVs produce the same colors from brand to brand.
Shane
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