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Opinions on this HD setup
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And HDV gives you true colors….? With its compression its like watching an HD DVD maybe a bit better….
We are speaking of relative levels of importance…
I just find it troubling calling a format that is so compressed HD… the point of using HD is that it gives you so much more detail color and quality… and I just never had quite the same experience with HDV doing that… not to say it isn’t better then DV…. it is HD relative to DV….
This all comes from years of making do and trying to spend the least money to make it work… and to give the desired result, independently its hard to do full movies with out an attitude like that…
Simon Carlson-Thies,
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[Simon Carlson-Thies] “I just find it troubling calling a format that is so compressed HD…”
It really doesn’t matter what you think or I think of any HD format. The fact of the matter is broadcasters are accepting HDV material so that means it is considered a professional format.
In my case, the series is being shot by the producer on the ZR1, I’m going to capture it via an M15 player / recorder which will pass through an AJA Component to HD-SDI converter allowing the Kona 3 to convert it to DVCPro HD. The finished product will actually look incredibly sharp and full of color thanks to Final Touch HD.
This is a professional show being shot on HDV. I personally don’t like the format, but I’ve seen raw material shot on it and I have to say the footage is incredible. You just need to stay away from HDV post.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
https://www.biscardicreative.com
HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”“I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters
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There you go, define professional by whether its used in that context… I define by target market, not precluding the possibility of using it in a professional context…. And yes steer clear of HDV post…
Simon Carlson-Thies,
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[Simon Carlson-Thies] “And HDV gives you true colors….? “
As true as HDV can get you. So why not use a professional monitor to see the colors that it gets you, instead of one that won’t show you the truest colors that it can get? Why make watching HDV any worse. Yes, HDV is highly compressed HD..but it is still considered by HD by many (I am not among them), and yes the 4:2:0 colorspace isn’t ideal, but you still need to see the colors it gets you, and using a consumer TV won’t get you that.
Look…if you are just editing a corporate video or any kind of video that is not intended for broadcast, you don’t need a broadcst monitor. HOWEVER, if you are doing broadcast work, you cannot work without one.
Shane
Littlefrog Post
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Actually if you’re working in HDV a broadcast monitor is actually more important as it better shows up any limitations in the footage, particularly focus issues which is the biggest area of concern in all HD shooting, it’s very easy to miss soft shots on domestic and LCD monitors. I’d always have a broaddcast CRT in the chain, even if most end users will be watching the results on LCD and Plasma.
The JVC DTV 17 is another CRT monitor to consider.
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Hi Walter, How are you going to convert the HDV to DVCPRO ? Just Curious. Stu
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Thank you everyone for participating in this lively debate. I have to say, I am a firm believer in a properly calibrated monitor – even for dv. I’ve waisted too much time colour correcting and not being happy with results (due to a mafunctioning monitor), so the quicker and better job I do, the happier the broadcaster is and the sooner I get on to the next gig.
I’ve actually just bought a new SD NTSC monitor (because last monitor went colour blind) to finish the current project I’m on. That is why I was thinking of the Matroc MXO (for output and colour correcting purposes). Walter, I have read in other posts you don’t care too much for Matrox (and if I went through the same I probably would too), but the box does seem interesting (suposedly can view any quicktime formate, so that potentially could mean colours in DVDSP, where going to 4.2.0 can be another pain in the ass in getting the colours right) – anyone using one yet, that would like to comment. The Panasonic monitors you mention – what models? Are you talking the LH1700??? Those do add us tp a few bucks. Is there something cheaper you were thinking of? Also, I thought I read that LCD’s hold colour better then plasma – please correct me if I’m wrong.
Arnie – what raid box and card did you get? Anyone else care to contribute testimonials on sata raids?
May go for the G5 dual core 2.5. After coming off a dual G4 MDD (aka the windtunnel, though I did convert cooling system and fans), the last thing I need is another noisy computer. Heard the Quad can get loud at times and the Dual 2.3 uses faster ram. Think that might be the way to go.
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Hello Again Walter, Sorry for my last post i did not read your later post till just now (the one about using the AJA analog component HD-HDSDI converter) I am still curious do you think going out analog component HD from an HDV deck is better than keeping the signal digital alll the way thru?? Stu
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We’re actually putting off the purchase until we return from shooting on location in about 6 or 7 weeks, in case prices drop & some new options come to the market. For now, we’ve settled on Highpoint’s Rocket Raid 2322, which is the only card that can do RAID 5 on a PCIe mac. The box we’re looking at is the 8 drive SC-SAT84X from PC-Pitstop. It has 2 infiniband connectors for the Rocket Raid, & it has 3 case fans & a fan on every drive tray.
Arnie
Now in preproduction: Peristroika (Cosmological Congress), a film by Slava Tsukerman
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Wow, that SC-SAT84X sata raid looks great. Please forgive my ignorance, but which mac(s) is/are the PCIe?
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