Open in Trimmer — from Timeline — Including Markers & Regions & an indication of cut sections — ‘Demote Media Markers’ script?

[Graham Bernard]

Jill, can you simplify your question – a bit?

Grazie

[John Rofrano]

The only way to do this in Vegas is with nested projects. The trimmer only edits media and media artifacts. Markers are a timeline artifact not a media artifact.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Adam Rose esq.]

not that it’s a great help, and you prob know it anyway, but will say that when you highlight a clip on the timeline (I/O points), then right-click to edit in trimmer, that same highlight is current in the trimmer…

[Jill Simpson]

Thanks – I had not thought of Nesting projects to get markers and regions from a timeline into a trimmer. I tried it and it may meet my needs.

To get edit points to appear in the trimmer, I need to add markers at edit points. The script “Startel Markers at Media Event Start Points” does that automatically.

Nesting does of course create the “.sfap0” proxy file which I’d rather not be necessary, but I can live with that.

Hmph. When I open the nested project in the trimmer, and add markers and regions, they appear on the timeline but they cannot be saved to the media file. (“Either media file is read-only [or] markers are not supported…”)

I’m not yet sure if nesting will help with my current needs, but it has some promise. Thanks.

[Jill Simpson]

Thanks Adam,
Yes I know in-point–out-point selections carry from the timeline to the trimmer, but thanks for making sure.

[John Rofrano]

> Hmph. When I open the nested project in the trimmer, and add markers and regions, they appear on the timeline but they cannot be saved to the media file. (“Either media file is read-only [or] markers are not supported…”)

Sorry that my post wasn’t clearer. My suggestion was to not use the trimmer and just use a nested project. You open the nested project in another instance of Vegas (right-click open project) and all of your markers, regions, etc. will be available to you. This may not be helpful to your workflow but it’s the only way I could think of to use timeline artifacts like markers with an event. I realize now that you want to somehow see the timeline markers from your project in the event trimmer which is impossible since timeline markers are only valid in the context of a timeline and not an event.

~jr

http://www.johnrofrano.com
http://www.vasst.com

[Jill Simpson]

I think the proper expression is: “Doh!”

Yes – I have some experience with nesting, so I should have understood how I would implement your suggestion.

Thanks – I will try it.

[Chris Young]

Jill

If I understand your post correctly. Following on from what John said and the fact that you know a selected region on a time line can be opened in the trimmer try the following. From timeline right click your clip/selection/region and select open in trimmer. The whole range of that selected timeline portion will now be highlighted in the trimmer, hit letter ‘R’ which will create a region over that highlighted selection, name it if you want. As long as you have ‘Automatically save trimmer marker and regions with media file’ selected under the Options/Preferences/General tab any markers and regions created in the trimmer will be saved with that media. You can now open this media in another instance of Vegas or for that matter on another machine and your markers plus annotations/names will be displayed. If you drag a whole file onto a timeline any regions or markers it has embedded in it will be represented by verticle lines along with any names runinng through the clip, orange for markers and green for regions. If that file is opened in the trimmer all is plainly visible. Good luck.

Chris Young
CYV Productions
Sydney

[Jill Simpson]

Hi Chris,
Thanks for contributing to this discussion. Others who read it later will benefit from your detailed illumination. Alas, it does not help with my problem.

I wrote that I have done almost all of my editing and marking in the timeline, and “now want to open many of my edited and/or marked media clips in the trimmer”. I did not specify that I have (for my various personal and professional projects) about 80 veg files with approximately 2000 regions (truly), and I’ll guess 70 markers.

I want a way to bring the regions and markers from the timeline to the trimmer with one or two clicks. I think John Rofrano’s suggestion of using the .veg project files as nested files is a perfect work-around/solution – but I have not fully tested yet.

(Also, I don’t know why it’s not possible to get the trimmer to indicate edit points, and color-code which sections are in the timeline, and which are not.)

[Jill Simpson]

Following Chris’s suggestion, yes, I can manually copy regions and markers one at a time, and I found it can be fairly quick.

1. in the timeline, select a REGION (right-click on a flag, then ‘select region’)
2. right-click on the event > open in trimmer
3. click “R”, then re-type region name (or copy the region’s name before opening in trimmer)
4. repeat for all regions. (there is no need to close the trimmer)

Markers can be copied too:
1. in the timeline, click on a MARKER’s flag, then click i, o (inpoint, outpoint).
2. as above (except click “M” instead of “R”).