One timeline per project?

[Edward Troxel]

You can place a PROJECT (VEG file) on the timeline in Vegas 6. This gives you nested projects. Each project has its own timeline so in this manner you will have your “nested timelines”.

Edward Troxel

[Peter Wright]

– and you can have several instances of Vegas open at the same time.

If one project is nested in another, any changes in the first project, once saved, flow through to the nested project.

Peter Wright
Perth, Western Oz
http://www.allroundvision.com.au

[Shane Chadder]

Thanks for the info. I’m used to having 10-20 timelines in a project so it doesn’t sound like a fit for my workstyle.

Great to see they are supporting some hardware i/o now.

[Edward Troxel]

What exactly do you mean by “10-20 timelines”???

It almost sounds like you’re meaning TRACKS.

Edward Troxel

[Shane Chadder]

No timelines. If you work on long form docs you often cut sections by theme or story on different timelines. I’ll often build timelines of my best B reel, each timeline again by theme or location. Then gradually build a show timeline cutting and pasting from numerous open timelines and source bins.

It is very usefull to have timelines of different versions of a show especially when you start shortening to time. You may throw away a whole section, then decide a week later you want it again its easy to cut and paste a that section from that earlier timeline.

How on earth could I do that if my project consists of 30 hours of footage split into thousands of clips, in 20 different bins. Every time I want a new timeline do a save as and delete the info off the timeline and start editing again?.. and open 8 instances of Vegas so I can cut and past back and forth? It sounds more complicated.

I’m sure it is a great product for many, but it doesn’t fit my particular (or peculiar) workstyle.

[Edward Troxel]

I don’t understand why you would have to “delete everything off the timeline and start a new project”. Start a dummy project and capture all the media which will put it into the media pool. Now you start working on section 1 and you do a File – Save As for that section. Go back to the ORIGINAL file and start working on section 2 and you do a File – Save As. Once you get all the sections completed, start a NEW project and simply add the previously created projects to that new timeline.

Based on reading your comments, it sounds like you are using these “timelines” as simply place holders for the media. That’s what the media pool itself is for. Or I’ll frequently drag several clips to the timeline, select the small sections I want to use, and then delete the originals off the timeline. Scripting comes in handy here.

Perhaps you have a workflow that could be implemented/augmented via scripting. I’d be interested in discussing that with you.

Edward Troxel

[Shane Chadder]

Thanks for your interest Edward. I know with a bit of sanding a square peg will fit a round hole…I’ll get back to you if I can’t find a round peg.

[Rob Mack]

Ed,

Watching Media100 folks work, I see this sort of project all the time. For instance, we do a quarterly training video for one of the large computer companies. All of the timelines for all of the movies are contained in one project. The project has a collection of bins and they are all shared amongst the 20 or 30 timelines. If you save a preset, it’s avaiable to all the timelines.

You can get around all this working in Vegas, but there’s no centralized project file.

Think AfterFX. It has multiple comps in a project file.
Think Flash. Multiple “scenes” in a project file.
Think Dreamweaver. Multiple pages in a website.
Think Excel. Multiple worsheets in a workbook.

A lot of NLEs work on a project level rather than a timeline level. I think Vegas is actually kind of rare in this regard. Again, you can get around it with Vegas but if you’ve actually got 20 or so movies in a CD you’re authoring it might be really handy for them to share resources more easily.

Rob Mack