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  • On the fence.. wondering if X will be a headache or a blessing…

    Posted by Matt Kerstein on May 25, 2012 at 9:09 am

    I have a client that wants a system set up for his Parasailing company. Files (SD cards)will come in daily off boats from a mounted GoPro and stills from Canon’s.These will be edited into vimeos for the passegers to later link and embed to their hearts content. Since I’d be training non video professionals, and the ability FCP X has to import all media without jumping thru hoops of steps via mpeg streamclip etc…FCP X was the call..But seeing the way that the workflow goes against everything I imagined it might be like..I’m getting cold sweats thinking I want to chuck it and install Adobe CS.
    But Im willing to give it a few more days..Have to anyways. The 27″ 3.4 8gig ram arrived with a bad logic board or something..Display was ghosting bad and flickering? First time in 20 years Ive had a apple product go bad on me right outta the box. For the Money maybe that Promax One Box? Anyways..If anybody has any suggestions how I might organize broll and build a fast “template” workflow..Id be very grateful and promise a sail on my Catamaran if ever on Maui.. Mahalo

    Aloha & Mahalo from Maui

    Matt Kerstein replied 13 years, 10 months ago 12 Members · 31 Replies
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  • Tony Brittan

    May 25, 2012 at 11:30 am

    Listen, if the don’t have prior NLE experience and aren’t held back by being too ingrained in how previous NLE’s work, they will likey lovve FCP X! Especially for what you’re talking about. CS6 is actually much better than previous versions but I’m an experienced editor / freelancer and I am having to relearn things just to be able to use it. That’s gonna be difficult for them. FCP X is bizzare at first for us longtime editors….but really, once you really try it, it’s ver good! I’m using it for SOME projects now and it sometimes when I go back to FCP, Avid, or Premiere, they feel really old and dated. Just sayin.

    But for who this client wants, FCP X will be perfect. If you’re judging it n your past experiences with NLE’s…just don’t. They won’t have the same prejudice as a long time editor does towards the way it works and will probably take to like a duck to water!

  • Tony Brittan

    May 25, 2012 at 11:31 am

    PS – Posted from iPad, please excuse typos!

  • Mathieu Ghekiere

    May 25, 2012 at 11:42 am

    I understand your worries…

    But look at it this way:

    FCP X has its own way of handling media. Some of us hate it, some of us think it’s much better then FCP7, but it can be setup in a way that people won’t be quick to loose their media.

    It imports images in the background, they can start editing fast.

    Finally… It’s all for Vimeo. They can immediately output to Vimeo from in FCP X, tagging it, giving it the right subject name, …
    I think FCP X looks like the best option for your clients.

    And as Tony said… It is a pretty powerful program. Very incomplete, still, yes. But once you really learn how to use it, it does grow on you.

  • Craig Seeman

    May 25, 2012 at 2:05 pm

    As others are indicating. FCPX is perfect for this kind of work. If the editor doesn’t have NLE background to “unlearn” X will be intuitive. Fast input and fast export for fast turnaround. Lots of built in an inexpensive plugins to add FX and looks for nice looking results. The ability to toss almost anything into it and it just works, mostly without rendering. Personally I think one of FCPX’s best targets is the small business that needs something professional, fast turnaround, easy to learn for a non editor. They’ll have a good online community to turn to for support as well. Lots of great training for them to use. Some of it even free.

  • Richard Herd

    May 25, 2012 at 2:44 pm

    will you need to or want to share media?

  • Shane Ross

    May 25, 2012 at 3:07 pm

    The Promax One is a Windows machine. Not Mac. Won’t run FCX.

    I’ll agree here. If they have zero editing experience and are dealing with tapeless files, FCX might be their best bet

    Shane
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  • Nathan Adam

    May 25, 2012 at 6:05 pm

    Gotta say, as a 10+ year FCP editor, I just cranked out a 24 minute video in X in about half the time it took me last year in 7, and I’m a speed/shortcut junkie in 7.
    I’d make a template project with specific types of shots and music cues, and when they import the daily footage, they can just skim through them, find the best parts, then literally drag/drop/replace the template footage, and they’ll be rendered and uploaded to Vimeo before they’d even started the edit in CS6. And I’m a big fan of CS6.

  • Matt Kerstein

    May 25, 2012 at 6:43 pm

    I agree..Seems very intuitive..Click a clip..”Apple”T and dissolve is placed on each side..pretty sweet. Still think they should have called it Imovie Pro..and used this updated code, integrated familiar icons and names and called the next new one.. FCP8. I understand the business & marketing standpoint that apple has taken. The broadcast and Pro market is such a small slice of the pie when considering the exploding market of hobbyists, kids, wives making soccer game video etc..But time will tell..change can be and usually is..a good thing.
    Thanks for the reply.
    Aloha
    Matt

    Aloha & Mahalo from Maui

  • Matt Kerstein

    May 25, 2012 at 6:46 pm

    Yep..feeling better today..Thanks for all the response. I was familiar with all the great “Share” options. But dissapointed with the limited flavors of exports.But totally understand the simplistic almost dogmatic approach to this new version.
    Aloha
    Matt

    Aloha & Mahalo from Maui

  • Craig Seeman

    May 25, 2012 at 6:48 pm

    [Matt Kerstein] “I understand the business & marketing standpoint that apple has taken.”

    But you’re missing the technical position.

    Regardless of the name they had do a ground up rewrite using entirely different resources. They changed the GUI in the process. The features in FCPX are no less “Pro.” They are still under development. It would make no sense technically to support the same feature set in two different GUI.

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