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OMF vs MXF. Also best compression for FCP ?
Johnny Smith replied 15 years, 8 months ago 7 Members · 18 Replies
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Shane Ross
August 27, 2010 at 1:27 am[Johnny Smith] “yes i have a 3TR Raid. Is that good enough?”
RAIDED how? Connected HOW?
[Johnny Smith] “s HQ better that ProRes? Can someone else confirm this?”
Yes. ProRes 422 is something like 175mbps, and HQ is like 220. My numbers might be slightly off.
[Johnny Smith] “My Lacie external drive has something faster than FW800, forget what it’s called.”
eSATA. Do you have an eSATA card for this connection on your Mac? That isn’t a built in connector type.
[Johnny Smith] “FYI the RAID is inside the Mac Pro.”
AHHHH! Internal SATA. That will be fine for HQ.
[Johnny Smith] “You guys sure my Mac can handle HQ?”
Should…
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Michael Gissing
August 27, 2010 at 2:55 amMy old G5 could handle uncompressed 10 bit with a fast RAID. ProRes HQ should be fine with your Mac.
How are you grading & onlining?
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Johnny Smith
August 27, 2010 at 3:51 amThis is embarrassing but I’m actually grading using Color on my Mac Pro and Apple Cinema Display (the matte version). My eyes can’t see the difference between a CRT and the apple Display.
BTW if anyone here knows Color inside and out and wants to be a $30/hour assistant for 3 days let me know. I’m in Hollywood.
Planning on dumping the finished film onto the Lacie and Deluxe ( or any lab with an HDcam deck ) will be laying it down onto an HDcamSR.
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Michael Gissing
August 27, 2010 at 4:37 amSo a film with the budget to shoot 35 mm and telecine it to HDCamSR can’t afford a grade with a facility that has a proper monitor. No offence Johnny, if you can’t see the difference between a computer monitor and a proper calibrated grading monitor, the please don’t try to grade.
Nothing wrong with Color. I use it for all broadcast finishing myself, but with a proper monitor and years of training as a telecine op & grader for broadcast.
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Walter Biscardi
August 27, 2010 at 7:38 am[Johnny Smith] “This is embarrassing but I’m actually grading using Color on my Mac Pro and Apple Cinema Display (the matte version). My eyes can’t see the difference between a CRT and the apple Display.”
Wow, I’m with Michael here, that is absolutely the wrong way to be grading. You want to have an FSI monitor at the very least running off an AJA Kona board to properly grade with Color.
We use Apple Color almost daily and a friend of mine who’s been a colorist for 30 years uses Color in his own facility for 35mm and RED color grades. But we both FSI color reference monitors being fed by AJA Kona 3’s.
I would definitely not recommend grading anything that’s going to HDCAM SR or coming from 35mm prints using just the Mac graphics card with an Apple Cinema Display.
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Jason Porthouse
August 27, 2010 at 8:08 amOhhh, this has turned into one of those posts that’s just got right on my t*ts.
Johnny – you’ve shot on 35, telecined to SR, and you’re GRADING ON A MAC MONITOR BECAUSE YOU CAN’T TELL THE DIFFERENCE?
May I respectfully suggest that if you can’t tell, you clearly aren’t qualified to do the job. Get someone in who is. If I said to you ‘hell, shoot on HDV cos I can’t tell the difference between that an 35mm’ you’d (rightly) think I was a complete ass. You’ll never grade a film properly just using mac monitors… the absolute minimum I would suggest would be a to use and MXO with a cinema display, but even then it would be a massive compromise. Anything less that a proper grade using properly set up equipment won’t be doing the film justice – and all the work put in by the DP, cam ops, art directors et al will be diminished because of a blind spot in your knowledge.
I’m sorry if this sounds harsh, but I’ve seen this before. Do the right thing and get some help in from someone who knows their stuff.
Jason
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Shane Ross
August 27, 2010 at 9:17 amDO NOT grade your 35mm, HDCAM SR film with Color and only the computer monitor. You are doing the film a GREAT disservice. I am located in LA, and know COLOR, and have a fully loaded FCP system with a professional broadcast monitor…and I am available. If you want to use my services and my equipment, give me a hollar. I’ll assist while you use my system, or I’ll grade for you. I know my stuff.
Email direct to discuss. comeback at mac.com. And if you want to go back OUT to HDCAM SR, I know where to go, if not, we can rent a deck.
Do this right….
Shane
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Johnny Smith
August 31, 2010 at 2:14 amOkay, well I was kinda expecting that kind of a reaction.
In my defense there’s a huge difference between telling someone you just met “umm, a little more red please”, and actually moving the mouse yourself. And at the end of the day the film either works or it doesn’t. Nobody will come out of the theatre saying “loved the film but wish it was just a little less yellow in the shadows”…
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