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Offline editing with Apple ProRes media
Hello,
I have Apple ProRes media and I would like to edit it in lower quality (offline?) and then substitute clips in the sequence with the original quality media.
Are there any tutorials on how to do that? Apple site is quite vague https://documentation.apple.com/en/finalcutpro/professionalformatsandworkflows/index.html#chapter=10%26section=5
Where to look for an answer?
Thank you!
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10 Replies
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Quite honestly Apple’s ProRes is pretty small media files. Most of us simply do the cut once using ProRes all the way through the editing process. Much easier to do this.
I you really want to work in a lower rez format, you can use Media Manager to Recompress all the files to something like DV.
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The problem is, that files are Apple ProRes 422 (Proxy), 1920 × 1080. In Uni we have IMacs and FCP doesn’t even try to play them in real time (even though RT is set to unlimited). I’ve managed to edit DVCPROHD 720p online on a low-end MacBook white before – no problem.
I know how to convert files, but how do I change them to high-res ones after the editing is finished, without affecting the sequence (fades, etc. ) ?
Is there an option that will force FCP to play work with ProRes online, without giving me that Unrendered screen?
Thank you!
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[Tony Ostrovsky] “The problem is, that files are Apple ProRes 422 (Proxy), 1920 × 1080. In Uni we have IMacs and FCP doesn’t even try to play them in real time (even though RT is set to unlimited). I’ve managed to edit DVCPROHD 720p online on a low-end MacBook white before – no problem. “
That’s a problem with your media array, not the iMac. We’re cutting a documentary right now in ProRes using a 2 year old iMac with over 200 hours of 720p ProRes. We’ve also cut 1080i ProRes on there with no problems. We’re running a Final Share SAN connected to that machine.
Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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[Walter Biscardi] “That’s a problem with your media array, not the iMac. We’re cutting a documentary right now in ProRes using a 2 year old iMac with over 200 hours of 720p ProRes. We’ve also cut 1080i ProRes on there with no problems. We’re running a Final Share SAN connected to that machine.”
OK, thank you. Could you, please explain what ‘a problem with my media array is’? I’ve googled ‘media array problem’ and found one of your earlier posts, but you have not described how to check if my media array is properly set up.
Thanks again!
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You need to edit using an external hard drive, preferably a raid. Check out Caldigit, G-Tech or Other World Computing for storage options.
Are you using your system drive as your scratch disk? That is not recommended.
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What other settings should I check?
Thanks!
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Here’s a chart which shows you the sustained data rate needed from your array to successfully play various codecs.
And here’s an app from AJA that will measure the data rate of whatever drive you point it at. System Test.
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Wow! Thanks for the information! I’m learning new things every day! 🙂
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What type of hard drives are you currently keeping your media on and how are they conected to the computer.
There are no “technical solutions” to your “artistic problems”.
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LaCie Rugged External HD 500GB 5400rpm FW800. Thank you
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