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  • Timothy Auld

    June 23, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Adam,

    I emailed Mr. Pogue directly after both his first FCP X article and its most recent follow-up. So I am not,
    as you charge, attacking him in the dark, unawares on some nameless, faceless forum that Mr. Pogue
    would never possibly think to look at for criticism of his work.

    As for how I would feel if someone started criticizing my work? Good God man, do you what business I’m in? My work is criticized constantly. Get a grip.

    bigpine

  • Chris Walsh

    June 23, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    The accompanying video is my favorite part! I’ve watched Pogue’s video podcasts on Tivo for a while — they’re as informative as they are deliberately corny.

    Apparently from the video, FCP X will solve all my problems! Except giving me a new alternative for the old imovie ’06 or ’08 “Break Beat” stock track – a great track, but ever since it showed up in a Happy Meal toy it’s a bit too much.

    Best of all, FCP X is only $300!

    His podcast and written response were prepared with lots of helpful advice, some had to be from Apple’s PR rep or an outside firm.

    Chris Walsh

    http://www.musicfog.com
    Silver Spring, MD
    Final Cut & AVID MC5
    Former Windows User and edit* lover

  • Jim Giberti

    June 23, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    What I can’t fathom is how so many people are so filled with outrage that they can’t see see the obvious good in this article.

    First he acknowledges the obvious – he’s not qualified to discuss pro editing with many of the pros that reside here.

    Then he makes a few very important disclosures about Apple’s priorities that should, in fact, be comforting to the pros currently feeling disenfranchised by X.

    As I’ve said and I’ll bet again here, the key shortcomings will be addressed in a not far off upgrade. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few small patches roll out in the coming months.

    And regarding schill talk and all the rest. It’s just getting old, obsessive even.

    This isn’t a conspiracy, it’s new piece of software. It definitely changes some conventions and if you don’t like the change then it’s time to move on, but Apple simply isn’t abandoning the market.

    I don’t think there’s any question that they know which major issues need to be addressed first and they’re simply not stupid people. Give them a little credit and time to evolve this.

    Again I’ve got 7 and X running on my systems. It’s all good here.
    They allowed for that intentionally you know?

    And if you don’t think that David P has been in direct communication with Apple over these issues, then you don’t know much about how this stuff works. He just gave you some important info.

    One last thing, he was absolutely right in pointing out that some first responses (from a few of the respected members here as well) are proven untrue with a little more knowledge of the software and paradigm.

    It’s why it’s always better to drink less coffee and have a little more bud.

    Please, I know it’s hard but try and refrain from “fanboy” responses.

  • Adam Mccune

    June 23, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Sorry, I wasn’t aiming that at you, Tim.

    I don’t like calling anything “shoddy journalism” which was said by others. I don’t feel comfortable with that kind of thing, especially on a forum. I think that’s fair

    Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate

  • Timothy Auld

    June 23, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    Jim,

    If he’s not qualified to discuss pro editing then he shouldn’t be writing reviews about it.

    If he’s making “disclosures” about Apple’s supposed priorities then he seems to be doing so
    without their knowledge. I know of not one statement, official or otherwise, that Apple has
    made about this situation. Perhaps you can point me toward one.

    Let them evolve? I don’t even know what that means. They have removed functionality and
    want people to pay for that. They have end of lifed a system that many have invested tens
    of thousands of dollars in. Let them evolve? How about expecting them to provide a working
    product?

    Exactly what information has he given me that is helpful?

    Exactly what information has he proven wrong?

    And for those of us who just don’t understand the way things work, why has Apple chosen
    to communicate with Mr. Pogue (according to you and clearly unofficially) and not with anyone
    else?

    I also notice you just joined this forum on the very day the FCP X was released.

    bigpine

  • Jim Giberti

    June 24, 2011 at 12:01 am

    Timothy I think my response is reasonable and I’m comfortable with the points I made.

    I am, however uncomfortable with your last statement.

    Is there something that I’m not aware of regarding when someone chooses to join a forum?
    I’ve seen these, frankly, cheesey quasi-indictments about a few others who joined the forum this week.

    If you’d like to compare credentials or something I’d be happy to do that with you in an email.

    If it makes you more comfortable that I’m not a spy or something I’m owner and creative director of a pretty accomplished creative firm.

    I’ve been invited as a guest speaker in a number of arenas from marketing and branding to technology.
    We pioneered the use of still lenses with the Mini 35 systems before there was DSLR shooting and we were first adopters of FC V.1 and have run it for over a decade on dozens of systems.

    A lot of the pros here are familiar with me and my work.
    I just never took the time to join this forum but have regularly enjoyed the information and discussion from the intelligent members and contributors.

    Would you prefer I not post my thoughts?
    Am I not qualified in your opinion?

  • Timothy Auld

    June 24, 2011 at 12:32 am

    Jim,

    I do not need to compare credentials with you.

    You are as entitled to your opinion as I am to disagree with it.

    Whether or not I think you are qualified to comment is irrelevant.

    Again: Exactly what information has Mr. Pogue given me that is helpful? Exactly what information has he
    proven wrong? And what evidence do you have (aside from your apparent certitude that you “know how these things work” that Mr. Pogue has been in direct communication with Apple? Can you point me toward any statement, any attributed communication whatsoever, that Apple has made on this subject?

    bigpine

  • Jim Giberti

    June 24, 2011 at 12:57 am

    Timothy,
    You wrote a post directly to me (I wasn’t addressing you in particular in my post) and you, in fact, ended that post with statement that you noticed that I had just joined the forum.

    I notice that you didn’t apologize or explain why you would take that attitude with another forum member.

    Was there a point to that closing statement?
    How about we address that if we’re going to talk with respect to each other?

    Then I’d be glad to share my thoughts and reasoning directly with you.

  • Timothy Auld

    June 24, 2011 at 1:02 am

    I guess then that I will have to get by without your thoughts and reasoning. I wish you all the best.

    bigpine

  • Jim Giberti

    June 24, 2011 at 1:19 am

    I wish you the best too Timothy.

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