-
NYT reporter Pogue responds to pros concerns
-
I wonder how Mr. Pogue would feel if they replaced the existing NYT’s computer system with one that prevented him from sending his copy to his editor or to the layout department. Don’t worry David, you can edit and layout the paper using NYT Pro X. You don’t need those other guys. You can’t print the paper anymore but hey you can post your article directly to facebook.
I think it’s the tone of the piece that is rubbing people the wrong way. Pogue seems to think that the professional community has no real reason to gripe or to be upset. Some of his answers are technically correct and others are just plain wrong or spin. Those points have already been well covered in this forum and by people who know much more about editing than Mr. Pogue.
My biggest problem with his last two articles is that he seems to be echoing the attitude of Apple. I resent the notion that I am just being lazy, scared, etc for not wanting to make a change or that we don’t really need those “old” features because this is the future. Professional editors in TV and film can’t wait years for the emergence of the basic features we currently rely on. There is too much at stake for our work and businesses. If Apple wants to try something new, that’s fine. Give it a shot. But don’t discontinue the current product the day of the release. You don’t remove key features without a timeline for replacing them and then tell us we can no longer buy the older version.
-
[Craig Wall] “So consider the source and his motivations”
Absolutely – I’d say “consider the source” in this case means the Apple PR department’s gospel filtered through some pretty shoddy journalism.
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com -
I agree with Simon that at least it DOES sound different than anything else in the boards/media. But I stand by my earlier point (which was in fact missing a preposition, thank you), that Pogue’s article is a pretty trojan horsey. I would just like to know who’s inside the horsey.
When he follows “I’ve never encountered anything quite like this.” with the assumptive “Apple has followed the typical Apple sequence:” , it means someone is in the horsey.
-
This guy works for arguably the most influential publication in this country. They are supposed to
be unbiased. Let him know what you think!Let the managing editor know what you think:
If you can find an email address for the publisher, let him/her know too.
bigpine
-
I own three shares, and judging by how many more people will buy this who are NOT pros, I would think that stock would go up…either that, or everyone is complaining about a phone manufacturer’s video editing product.
Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate
-
[Adam McCune] ” I would think that stock would go up”
I’m not a financial expert but the stock doesn’t go up or down depending on how many units of a particular product are sold, it goes up or down based on the market’s view of how well a particular corporation is performing in the market place and one of the biggest barometers for that is the court of public opinion especially as expressed through the financial papers and similar forums. On that basis Apple could be taking a bit of a knock this week, though there is no doubt that they will have bounced back by Monday with some thrilling announcement about a pretty new mobile phone!
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com -
[Simon Ubsdell] ” one of the biggest barometers for that is the court of public opinion especially as expressed through the financial papers and similar forums”
Right. Which is what I was saying. If this app is for mass appeal, then more people will download it.
Think of this – at 1/3 the price, if four times as many people can (and probably eventually will..) use it, then they just made a fantastic business decision…hence my line.
Doesn’t sit well with the pros on here, but I think that is the reality. This is Final Cut ProSumer.
Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate
-
[Adam McCune] “Which is what I was saying”
I’m obviously not expressing it clearly – the financial papers will have picked up that the professional editing community is in an unprecedented uproar and this will impact, however minimally, on Apple’s market position. One of the main reasons (perhaps the only reason!) Apple are in the NLE business at all is to garner the credibility that attaches to its “Hollywood” credentials – this again is all about Wall Street and nothing to do with units shipped.
Simon Ubsdell
Director/Editor/Writer
http://www.tokyo-uk.com -
I see what your saying, but share price is more directly related, in the long term, to the bottom line. There will be some knee-jerk reactions that might take the stock down temporarily, but it will recover.
Apple leveraged that “pro” perception people have about their product and made it for mass appeal. In your eyes it’s dumbed-down, but to a general consumer, they can actually edit a project without looking like iMovie and without it being intimidating.
I think they have spoken – Apple doesn’t care about the pro market. They are interested in creating a new one (see also: iphone/ipod/ipad)
Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate
-
Shoddy journalism?
I think it’s pretty lame to toss a jab his way on a different forum and not let him defend himself. I’m a writer and I know that if someone complains – even if that complaint isn’t founded in fact – I respond to them. Granted, I don’t write a column in the NY Times, but still…
How would you feel if he started critiquing your work?
Writer/Radio host/Community Media Advocate
Reply to this Discussion! Login or Sign Up