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  • NTSC to PAL Questions

    Posted by Chris Carr on February 21, 2007 at 8:12 pm

    I have a 23.98fps NTSC FCP project that I am in the process of conforming to a high quality PAL MOV file. I exported an 8 bit uncompressed file from my original timeline using Quicktime Conversion. I then opened that file in Cinema Tools and did a 25fps conform. I used Soundtrack Pro to open this conformed file and slightly lowered the pitch. I then imported the file into a new 8 bit uncompressed PAL FCP timeline. Lastly, I blew the image up to 112% to fit the PAL screen. Now, I need to export this file to a dual layer DVD-ROM for another party overseas to compress to a PAL DVD. So, my goal is to give said party a file with as much quality as possible (approx. 8GB). Which codec would you recommend using to achieve such a result? Also, the picture in the aforementioned PAL timeline has a lot of moire/zebraing. Why is this? Anything I can do to get rid of it?

    Graeme Nattress replied 19 years, 2 months ago 6 Members · 12 Replies
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  • Chris Carr

    February 21, 2007 at 8:14 pm

    By the way, the total runtime of this project is 30 minutes.

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 21, 2007 at 8:36 pm

    [carrcs] “I have a 23.98fps NTSC FCP project that I am in the process of conforming to a high quality PAL MOV file. I exported an 8 bit uncompressed file from my original timeline using Quicktime Conversion.”

    That’s no the optimal way to do this. Go to http://www.nattress.com and download his Standards Converter.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Graeme Nattress

    February 21, 2007 at 8:51 pm

    Actually, for 23.98fps to PAL, Cinema Tools is the optimal way. I always advise people to take this route for 24p to PAL conversions. It’s the traditional and best way to do it.

    For the artifacting – can you either send me a picture, or put up a link to it here? Have you turned on the higher quality scaling options in FCP?

    Codec – if you just want to send a data DVD and uncompressed is too big, try PhotoJPEG at 75%. Set the timeline in FCP to this, and export the movie from the timeline via “current settings” for best results.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Walter Biscardi

    February 21, 2007 at 8:54 pm

    [Graeme Nattress] “Actually, for 23.98fps to PAL, Cinema Tools is the optimal way. I always advise people to take this route for 24p to PAL conversions. It’s the traditional and best way to do it.”

    Well there you go, you learn something new everyday. Thanks for chiming in here Graeme!

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
    https://www.biscardicreative.com
    HD Editorial & Animation for Food Network’s “Good Eats”
    HD Editorial for “Assignment Earth”

    “I reject your reality and substitute my own!” – Adam Savage, Mythbusters

  • Graeme Nattress

    February 21, 2007 at 8:58 pm

    Thanks Walter.

    Issue with this 24p to PAL method, is that it speeds thing up a bit, making it unsuitable for Music stuff. However, My plugins work best from 60i to PAL, and don’t really work for 24p with 3:2 to PAL as you get a visual beat of 1 frame per second due to the 24p / 25p difference.

    However, if you’re shooting music that you want to look like Film on NTSC and PAL, then shoot 25p, and convert that to 60i, which actually works quite well with my plugins.

    I really do hope that broadcasting goes fps independent, just like web movies are…..

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Chris Carr

    February 21, 2007 at 9:03 pm

    Thank you both for your help. Mr. Natress, I especially appreciate your honesty. It’s a rarity these days. I will do my best to put the good word out about your website and products.

  • Graeme Nattress

    February 21, 2007 at 9:08 pm

    Thanks. Actually, I do end up telling many people just not the buy my Standards Converter as if they’re in your circumstance the Cinema Tools trick will work a lot, lot better for them.

    Same as if they’re wanting to convert to PAL to send a DVD to a relative – ALL European DVD players play NTSC, and most modern TVs will play it fine.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Matt Schulze

    February 22, 2007 at 2:46 am

    “ALL European DVD players play NTSC, and most modern TVs will play it fine.”

    True, but many of them will do so only in black and white, just something to be aware of.

  • Graeme Nattress

    February 22, 2007 at 3:31 am

    I’ve only ever seen an ancient TV not be able to lock on the the 60hz and roll the picture (and that’s rare). All DVD players in EU have to play NTSC properly as they’re all region 2, and that means EU and Japan, an NTSC country.

    Graeme

    http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects and Standards Conversion for FCP

  • Tom Meegan

    February 22, 2007 at 10:23 am

    Hoping that I’m not thread jacking here…

    Will PAL DVDs play in North American NTSC players? I have a client who does three North American events and seven European events a year.

    If I AM thread jacking, I’ll just try it out and report back…

    Hi Graeme. I hope you are doing well.

    Best,

    Tom Meegan

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