Now do you import and work with mp4 to retain quality

[Dimitrios Papadimitriou]

First thing you can check the bitrate of the media. on windows I just right click on the file and go to properties then details. Before you render highlight the whole project with the select tool (no audio just video/images or it would work). When it’s all highlighted yellow go to edit/switches then disable resample. Now when you go to render look for something like hd internet 1080 or something like that, basically look at the options under the mp4 section. Pick one then go to customize settings. You don’t want the frame size to be bigger than the source media, and you typically want the frame rate to match as well. Vegas will usually set that up automatically when you put the first video clip in. Now choose or put in a constant bitrate or a variable bitrate that evens out to be close to the actual bitrate of the media, select 2 pass encoding, then click on project and go to video rendering quality and select best. This should probably increase the quality of the render, I’m a pretty big dunce when it comes to video quality/sound quality kind of stuff and this basically the extent of my knowledge in this area.

[Andrew Taylor]

Thaks for those tips.

[George Dean]

Andrew, can you provide some addition details about your project? Using Mediainfo (in text mode) post a screenshot of your source media specs, a screenshot of your Project settings, and a screenshot of the render template settings you used. This will further help us to make suggestion for improved quality.

Best Regards……George

[Andrew Taylor]

I dont understand mediainfo interface
So here are the screenshots

source media 1
https://www.screencast.com/t/kbxdBLSv3

project screen 1
https://www.screencast.com/t/BRmqvpkX
project screen 2
https://www.screencast.com/t/qXdKFyMF26cb

render screen 1
https://www.screencast.com/t/cQJbpx9Dq
render screen 2
https://www.screencast.com/t/UDXaWILCZmN

[Andrew Taylor]

source media
H264
frame rate 25
1920 x 1080
stream video 1

Project
template 360-25p (480 x 360 fps)
width 480
height 360
frame rate 25
full resolution rendering: Good
times and frames
120 beat per min
beat beats per measure 4

Render
file.mp4
17.7 MB
frame width 480
Frame height 360

data rate 1774 KBPS
total bit rate 1902 kbps
frame rate 29 fps

audio (which is out of sync)
bitrate 128 kbps
audio sample rate 48 khz

[Andrew Taylor]

General
Complete name : C:\Users\Andrew\Videos\Logitech\LogiCapture\2019-06-13_11-06-28.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom (isom/iso2/avc1/iso6/mp41)
File size : 23.8 MiB
Duration : 1 min 18 s
Overall bit rate : 2 561 kb/s
Writing application : Lavf57.66.102

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC / AVC / AVC / AVC / AVC / AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : Baseline@L4 / Baseline@L4 / Baseline@L4 / Baseline@L4 / Baseline@L4 / Baseline@L4
Format settings : 1 Ref Frames / 1 Ref Frames / 1 Ref Frames / 1 Ref Frames / 1 Ref Frames / 1 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : No / No / No / No / No / No
Format settings, Reference frames : 1 frame / 1 frame / 1 frame / 1 frame / 1 frame / 1 frame
Format settings, GOP : M=1, N=25 / M=1, N=25 / M=1, N=25 / M=1, N=25 / M=1, N=25 / M=1, N=25
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1 min 17 s
Bit rate : 2 393 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Original width : 1 920 pixels / 1 920 pixels / 1 920 pixels / 1 920 pixels / 1 920 pixels / 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Original height : 1 080 pixels / 1 080 pixels / 1 080 pixels / 1 080 pixels / 1 080 pixels / 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 24.305 FPS
Minimum frame rate : 6.250 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0 / 4:2:0 / 4:2:0 / 4:2:0 / 4:2:0 / 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits / 8 bits / 8 bits / 8 bits / 8 bits / 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive / Progressive / Progressive / Progressive / Progressive / Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.047
Stream size : 22.2 MiB (93%)
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 1 min 18 s
Bit rate : 175 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 1.63 MiB (7%)
Title : Mixed Audio
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1

[George Dean]

Hi Andrew,

If it were me, I would use something like Handbrake to convert the source media from variable frame rate to constant frame rate. Bring that into a new project, match media in the project settings. Select ‘Disable resample’ on each video event, then match the render settings with your project settings and see if that makes an improvement.

Best Regards……George

[Andrew Taylor]

Thanks for the guidance George.
Handbrake is great.
However i am getting a production with sound but a blank screen in firefox playback
Any suggestions?

Here is the media info
——————————
General
Complete name : C:\Users\Andrew\Videos\Logitech\LogiCapture\2Screen-From-Logitech-1.m4v
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42 (isom/iso2/avc1/mp41)
File size : 18.6 MiB
Duration : 1 min 18 s
Overall bit rate : 2 002 kb/s
Encoded date : UTC 2019-06-15 09:29:00
Tagged date : UTC 2019-06-15 09:29:00
Writing application : HandBrake 1.2.2 2019022300

Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L5.2
Format settings : CABAC / 2 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, Reference frames : 2 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1 min 17 s
Bit rate : 1 742 kb/s
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate mode : Variable
Frame rate : 24.276 FPS
Minimum frame rate : 6.250 FPS
Maximum frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.035
Stream size : 16.2 MiB (87%)
Writing library : x264 core 157 r2935 545de2f
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=hex / subme=7 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / lookahead_threads=1 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=2 / keyint=30 / keyint_min=15 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=30 / rc=crf / mbtree=1 / crf=21.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=0 / qpmax=69 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=300000 / vbv_bufsize=300000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / filler=0 / ip_ratio=1.40 / aq=1:1.00
Encoded date : UTC 2019-06-15 09:29:00
Tagged date : UTC 2019-06-15 09:29:00
Color range : Limited
Color primaries : BT.709
Transfer characteristics : BT.709
Matrix coefficients : BT.709
Codec configuration box : avcC

Audio
ID : 2
Format : AAC LC
Format/Info : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID : mp4a-40-2
Duration : 1 min 18 s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 265 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 2.42 MiB (13%)
Title : Stereo
Default : Yes
Alternate group : 1
Encoded date : UTC 2019-06-15 09:29:00
Tagged date : UTC 2019-06-15 09:29:00

[Andrew Taylor]

sorry, i fixed up the fps to constant and that worked for the video.
But I find the sound track is out of syc,

I had thought of adding a clapper board and manually moving the sound track in the editor.
Do you recommend that?

[George Dean]

You can use a clapper board, clap your hands, use Plural Eyes, or manual sync it using the audio wave forms.

May I ask, what are you using to record your source media?

Best Regards……George