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  • No Keyframe editor? massive fail apple!

    Posted by Mark Palmos on June 21, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    Hi guys,
    Boy, there is plenty to underwhelmed by, but I find it incredible there is no keyframe editor, not one that I can find…

    I wish I hadn’t been so trigger happy, FCP/Motion5 and Compressor are going to be sitting doing nothing on my system for quite some time I fear… If and when fcpx is good enough to actually use, the upgrade price will probably be the same as the purchase price I’ve just paid!

    I wonder if they are offering refunds for vastly disappointed editors?

    major fail Apple.

    Mark.

    Jim Waterwash replied 14 years ago 11 Members · 19 Replies
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  • Brad Baker

    June 21, 2011 at 4:54 pm
  • Nevin Styre

    June 21, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    If I remember correctly from the demo the keyframes are viewable in the timeline, I don’t have FCPx but there should be a twirldown or option to show the keyframes.

  • Mark Palmos

    June 21, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    FCP7 had the worst keyframing in the business, but fcpX has now taken the crown… pathetic!

  • Matthew Sonnenfeld

    June 22, 2011 at 12:05 am

    Hi All,

    So after toying around with it, I have found the keyframe editor and I find it to be incredibly fast and easy…

    There is a small icon on the top left of every clip in the timeline that opens up to a small menu with the option for Vido Animation. Select that and then you get, essentially the motion tab from FCP7, directly in your timeline. It is the keyframes that correspond to the parameters in the inspector. Attached is a screenshot that will show the expanded keyframe editors for opacity and the Bokeh Random effect. Note the parameters of the Bokeh Random effect in the Inspector on the top right and how they correspond to the editor in the timeline. To mark a keyframe in the Video Animation editor, simply hold Option, and click where you want to mark it.

    Again, it is super fast and super easy. A vast improvement over navigating through multiple windows and tabs to do simple things.

    Panasonic HPX170 P
    2008 Unibody Macbook Pro 15 inch, 2.8 Ghz, 4GB RAM
    CalDigit VR
    Final Cut Pro Studio 3
    Avid Media Composer
    The College of WIlliam and Mary

  • Matthew Sonnenfeld

    June 22, 2011 at 12:08 am

    Sorry, here’s the screenshot!

    Panasonic HPX170 P
    2008 Unibody Macbook Pro 15 inch, 2.8 Ghz, 4GB RAM
    CalDigit VR
    Final Cut Pro Studio 3
    Avid Media Composer
    The College of WIlliam and Mary

  • Mark Palmos

    June 22, 2011 at 9:27 am

    [Matthew Sonnenfeld] “So after toying around with it, I have found the keyframe editor and I find it to be incredibly fast and easy…”

    Hello Matthew,
    I have seen that, but that is hardly what I would call a keyframe editor:

    You cannot expand any parameter that has more than one attribute (like crop or scale or position) – making it useless.
    You cannot add bezier handles to keyframes
    You cannot copy and paste keyframes
    When you copy and paste attributes, you have no choices as to how they will be pasted, etc… it is dismal.

    All in all, it is a step backwards from FCP where you had a terrible KFE, but could actually do more than you can now do with this lame software.

    Mark.

  • Oliver Michaels

    June 25, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    But there is not keyframing on color or brightness/levels!!! i’m assuming that they are expecting a third party plugin but to market the app as being much better at color correction and leaving keyframes to a third party plugin makes no sense. the manual says cut the clip in half, adjust them separately and crossfade between them! how about that for accuracy???

  • Tom Fuldner

    June 27, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    I agree with Oliver. I really, really wanted to like FCP-X. I’m already into a project and I’ve made the same discovery: no keyframe editor for color correction. Ugh! This has got to change!

    Tom F.
    Raleigh, NC

  • Ariel Dones

    August 9, 2011 at 4:32 am

    adding keyframe point. Place the cursor to the desired point in the frame and hit alt+K. hope it helps

  • Mark Palmos

    August 9, 2011 at 6:46 am

    Hi, thanks, yes I know that, but I am talking about a proper keyframe editor where you can copy, paste, bezier curve and adjust accurately.

    Nope, FCX is so far from usable in a professional environment, I have sold my MBP and my macpro is on eBay… I am 100% finished with apple products.

    Premiere Pro has been fantastic, and upgrade FCP8 should have been…
    Thanks anyway…
    Mark

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