No audio tracks when importing avi file with Vegas 15.0

[George Dean]

Hi Carlos,

1. Most likely the audio in your avi file is not compatible with Vegas Pro. You may want to use a free app such as Handbrake or MediaER Tool Kit to convert the file to include audio that Vegas will like. You could also use a free app called Mediainfo to display the specs of your source avi media and then post a screenshot of the specs here for others to look at. Place Mediainfo in Text mode (in the ‘View’ tab, then load your source file. You can download Mediainfo here: https://mediaarea.net/en/MediaInfo

2. There are several icons above the preview window display. If you click on the icon that looks like 2 computers, that should display full screen.

3. There are many tutorials on Youtube and here is a website that has some excellent tutorials: https://www.moviestudiozen.com/free-tutorials

4. It is not Sony Vegas Pro 15, it is Magix Vegas Pro 15. Sony sold Vegas Pro to Magix (Germany) several years ago and the last Sony version was 13, everything since then, including the latest version 16 has been produced by Magix.

Hope this helps….

Best Regards……George

[Carlos E. martinez]

Hi, George.

Thanks. No problem to copy here the Mediainfo data for that avi file. Here they are:

General
Complete name : G:\The Three Musketeers.avi
Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
Format profile : OpenDML
File size : 2.19 GiB
Duration : 2 h 0 min
Overall bit rate : 2 589 kb/s
Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.3 | https://www.virtualdub-fr.org || (build 2550/release)
Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2550/release

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings : BVOP2
Format settings, BVOP : 2
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : DX50
Codec ID/Hint : DivX 5
Duration : 2 h 0 min
Bit rate : 2 187 kb/s
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 528 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 4:3
Frame rate : 25.000 FPS
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Compression mode : Lossy
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.235
Stream size : 1.85 GiB (84%)
Writing library : XviD 65

Audio #1
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 2 h 0 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 166 MiB (7%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 40 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms
Service kind : Complete Main

Audio #2
ID : 2
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Commercial name : Dolby Digital
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 2 h 0 min
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 kb/s
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel layout : L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate : 31.250 FPS (1536 SPF)
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 166 MiB (7%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 40 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms
Service kind : Complete Main

I did try importing from other avi files to Vegas, and the same happened. Video fine, no audio.

And yes, I also used Videocoder (same as Handbrake) to convert the file to mp4, and then import it. What I did get: a no video, audio only mp4 file.

As I was there with the “video only” import I had done from the avi file, I applied the “Sharpen light” filter, only this time I rendered it to AVCHD 1440 x 1080 50i, instead of mp4, because the file was 25p. As a result I got an excellent looking m2ts file, x6 times larger, with no audio, of course.

I did demux the audio from avi file with Audacity. Then put that audio track on the timeline, and it needed to be readjusted for sync, delaying the audio track.

Too much work for what I intend to do, with this and other SD videos I have, which were never released in BD. Which is applying corrections that would make the video “look like HD”.

What puzzled me was this test conversion I did, because it seems not only “sharpen” was applied, but a whole bunch of adjustments which I did not set.

In any case, this files would need reconverting and it has no audio. I have to get the audio tracks when importing.

[George Dean]

Carlos,

This is the audio specs from a avi file I have hanging around, that plays fine in Vegas

Here is a avi file that I processed through Handbrake to mp4 (h.264) and it p;ays fine in Vegas

These are two audio specs, if you can match or come close should work fine. Although Vegas will render AC-3, I don’t think it really likes to decode it. I could be wrong, I’ll admit my skills are limited when it comes to audio.

Best Regards……George

[Graham Bernard]

[George Dean] “Although Vegas will render AC-3, I don’t think it really likes to decode it.”

Correct. I’ve never seen an AVI having a AC-3 Audio component. I’ve prepared heaps of DVDs with MPEG2 video and AC-3 audio. AVI with AC-3? Bizarre, and yet, fascinating at the same time ????.

* Grazie

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[Carlos E. martinez]

OK, good news.

After several processings that involved MKVmerge, Audacity, MKVmerge again and Videocoder, I ended up with 1080p file with pcm tracks.

That I could import perfectly from Vegas.

Also identified the enlargening screen icon and it works too.

Now let’s see what we can do to make SD files look or cheat to look like HD, using the available filters.

To start with let me tell you that I only believed this could be possible when I saw a DVD player I have, with HDMI output, could do by hardware processing any DVD image and have it really look like HD.

I even considered getting an HDMI capture box, and process SD videos through it. But I wonder how much can be achieved by software doing what.

Perhaps I should get an HDMI capture box and compare the results of hardware and software processing.

If you have any ideas please do express them.

[Carlos E. martinez]

Practical trick hint.

How do I do to increase the screen size and see how a certain filter affects the image, turning it on and off?

How do I open the filter settings with the larger screen?

[George Dean]

Carlos @ “How do I do to increase the screen size and see how a certain filter affects the image, turning it on and off? How do I open the filter settings with the larger screen?”

You cannot get behind the Full Screen display. If you have two monitors you can display Full Screen on the 2nd monitor while working with Vegas Pro in the Primary monitor.

If you don’t have 2 monitors, you can display the difference in a split screen display using Track Motion. Drag a sample clip from the Project Media bin to track 1. Then drag that same clip to track 2, and align it below track1. Press the Mute icon on the video track 2.

Click on the Track Motion icon in the track header of track 1. Move the screen alignment of the event in track1 to the left so only half of it shows in the preview window, the right half with be black/blank. Now click on the Mute icon in the track 2 header to unmute track 2. Now you see track 1 on the left and track 2 on the right.

Apply your magic to the event/clip in track 2.

When you go full screen you will see the before on the left and the after on the right.

Best Regards……George

[George Dean]

Carlos @ “To start with let me tell you that I only believed this could be possible when I saw a DVD player I have, with HDMI output, could do by hardware processing any DVD image and have it really look like HD. ”

If you have your DVD plugged into a later model flat screen TV, I would think the improvement in upscaling is due to the tricks in the TV display, but I could be wrong about that. If you TV accepts h.264/mp4 files via USB, that would make for a test to determine how much the TV improves DVD as to how much the DVD player improves DVD display.

Best Regards……George

[Carlos E. martinez]

No, I saw this at a time when I didn’t even have a BD player yet., only this DVD player with HDMI output and upscale processing.

My TV back then was a 720p Panasonic plasma type, with HDMI and VGA inputs.

So I could look at 720p files that I downloaded, mostly series, and also compare the DVD analog and HDMI outputs for the same movies.

I’m sure the Panasonic did not provide any upscaling.

BD players did, and next year I did bought one, one of the best I ever had, and LG, that could also play MKV files and also be used as a media player, where I started my network.

To my surprise, the upscaling of the DVD video player was better than the one on the LG. I still have that player, hopefully still working, to finally see how to clone the upscale tricks it used using software.

[Carlos E. martinez]

Besides Sharpen, which other filters I could use that would subtly enhance the SD image to make it “look like HD”?

Sometimes slightly increasing the contrast also helps. Perhaps there are other filters I can add.

I know many find that ridiculous or impossible, as you can’t create details that are not there, but I remember my Avisynth times, when I used different combination of filters that improved poorly captured or avi videos and the end result looked quite good.