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No 23.976 video playback out to monitor: Blackmagic Desktop Video and Premiere CC
Wondering if this is a BMD hardware or Premiere limitation. I have issues in Premiere with video playback going out of sync on my Sony PVM-14L5 CRT monitor.
In the Premiere>Preferences>Playback window, I have, “Enable Mercury Transmit” checked. Video Device: I have, “Blackmagic Playback” checked. I click on setup and Device shows my Intensity Shuttle Thunderbolt. For output of unsupported frame sizes, “Scale To Fit” is selected.
Video sync playback issues ONLY occurs with 23.976 footage going from the project window DIRECTLY to the source monitor. I have no issues when dropping this footage directly into the timeline. I have the latest version of Premiere CC and Desktop Video 10.2.3. Would like to resolve this playback annoyance. Thanks.
You can test this out by creating Bars and Tone or Universal Countdown Leader at 23.976. Once created, drag it from the Project window directly to the Source Monitor. Would like to resolve this playback annoyance. Thanks.
For a better understanding, Shane Ross wrote a BLOG post about it for AJA cards but would like to know if this is possible now with the latest BMD Desktop Video drivers for my Intensity Shuttle Thunderbolt(I have the latest Premiere CC update):
https://lfhd.net/2012/05/09/video-out-of-ppro-cs6-switching-monitoring-format/
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[Jay Soriano] “Wondering if this is a BMD hardware or Premiere limitation”
I googled up a brochure and it seems that it is a monitor problem. It doesn’t support that framerate.
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I have the same monitor in one of my rooms and most of them do support the 48hz “24P mode”
whenever I have 23.976 sequences in that room, the monitor output doesn’t work.
Some of the black magic hardware will not output it. In final cut pro 7 it had
the ability to add the pull down to output it.right now the only work around I’m aware of is to change the frame rate of
the sequence from 23.976 to 29.97.This is a brand new feature in Premiere CC 2014.1 (thanks for this adobe!) as before
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I know my monitor doesn’t support 23.98. In FCP 7,1080p 23.98…FCP 7 was able to send out a 1080i 29.97 signal. Then the signal going from FCP to the IO device would be 29.97. The View>Video Playback was where you changed this. And you could change it to 720p 59.94 if you wanted, and the 1080p 23.98 signal would be converted by FCP to 720p 59.94. FCP did that, not the IO devices. Same with Media Composer.
Adobe Premiere, I can view 23.98 playback out to my monitor as long as footage is in the timeline. But footage directly from the project window then dragged/double clicked to the source monitor, I lose video playback sync on my monitor.
Is this a Premiere limitation? BMD limitation? Both? Does Premiere have the capability as FCP7/MC of outputting a 1080i 29.97 signal in software or does it rely on the I/O card for this? If there’s a way in Premiere, please let me know what settings I might have incorrectly(Kevin M, your thoughts?) If Premiere relies on the I/O card, and is a BMD limitation, I would like to know and move on to Matrox or AJA. Thanks again all!
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Anyone?
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I’m having this exact same problem. I’m testing out Premiere to see if my entire edit shop should switch. It’s playing back from the timeline, but then if i match frame or just load a clip into the source monitor i don’t get playback. The odd thing is, every now and then it works. This is the one hang up i’m having on pulling the plug on FCP 7.
Changing the Sequence frame rate is no way an option. Yes it may fix the playback, but there’s no way i’m risking changing it to edit, then forgetting it was changed then sending EDLs to colorists and vfx shops with an EDL at 29.97 and footage at 23.98.
Guess i’ll try contacting adobe and looking into the control panel for black magic.
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Hi Chris,
I have no problem with a 23.976 sequence and take the file(or double click) to view in the Source monitor. I still get playback out to my monitor. The problem occurs when I have 23.976 footage that I want to view from the Project window, directly to the Source monitor…no playback out to monitor. FCP7 Project window to Viewer, no problem. Media Composer 7/8 Bin window to Source monitor, no problem. Is this a limitation of Premiere CC?
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Yeah i have the same thing now. Or maybe i did before. Anyhow. If i toss a clip in my timeline it plays and scrubs fine. if i double click that clip to load it into the source monitor, it plays and scrubs fine. If i match frame the same clip in my time line to the source monitor, it gets hung up. My tv goes black, and then displays the little info box of what resolution is being input into the tv. Same thing happens if i double click a clip from a bin. It’s as if premiere and/or black magic is sending a separate signal from the source and record monitors when clips are loaded like that. Or premiere is and black magic needs to take a second to realize what flavor of video it’s getting then sending it out. Opposed to final cut where you select a playback resolution and it just plays it all like that and the signal stays the same to the tv. I guess this would be an adobe fix. if they could write in a playback option in preferences to select a playback resolution best for your project….
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