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No 1080 25p option
I know I made a similar post some time ago but I can’t locate it and didn’t find any solution to my problem. I have been using Sony Movie Studio Platinum 12 for several months. Overall, it’s a great, versatile NLE program but it one major flaw. And that is – there is no 1920 x 1080 25p output option which really sucks for PAL users like myself. I can output video as 1280 x 720 25p or alternatively 1080 50i.
Right at this moment, I am working on a short film which is being shot at 1080 25p and which I am going to submit to a local film festival later this year. And it would be nice to be able to render the finished product as 1920 x 1080 25p if it is selected for display on the big screen at the festival. Would anyone have a solution to my dilemma? I hope I don’t have to fork out money for another NLE program just to be able to render at the resolution / frame rate that I want.
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I’m not certain about Movie Studio version but in pro you simply customise a render template to taste or need and save it as a new template. TAke your 1280 x 720 25p modify it it 1920 x 1080 then rename the template and save it.
Russ Froze -
In the past, Ive tried to find a way to customise render settings but couldn’t find a way. I tried again just now and it is indeed possible and so simple to do. Thankyou! I notice the default bitrate for 1280 x 720 is 18mbps. When I change the height and width to 1920 x 1080, should I bump the bitrate up to something like 20 or 25mbps?
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The bitrate of course depends on the delivery format but for Blu Ray 20 -25 is the norm.
Russ Froze -
Ah cool. Would 20 – 25 also be fine for playing the file from a hard drive? For this film competition I’m entering, I don’t really know what delivery format they’re accepting films on, and also for screening also. I’ll have to ask them.
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Yes 25 should play from a drive but again that depends on your gear. As to festivals they accept Blu Ray HD format. Those 4K projectors are costly to rent plus most festival filmmakers don’t have a budget for the cameras, How ever it never hurts to check with the festivals or theater venues you wish to show the work at. Best of luck.
Russ Froze -
Just now, I customised one of the templates to 1920 x 1080, 25p with a bitrate of 25mbps but Sony Movie Studio won’t let me render the video. A message comes up that says: “An error occurred while creating this media file. The reason for the error could not be determined.”
Any ideas on what’s going on?
I tried a few more times and also saved the custom template as well but I still get the same message.
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[Patrick Cooper] “An error occurred while creating this media file. The reason for the error could not be determined”
Hi, ok usually but not always this message comes up when a template is customised in such a way that is not supported by the codec in use. May I ask which template was customised and to what degree? Preferably a screen shot of the customised template and the name of the original template so I have a starting point.
Russ Froze -
Thankyou Russ. As I’m not computer savvy, I’m not really sure how to do screen captures. But until I work that out, I’ll do my best to explain what I did with regards to modifications. I actually modified two templates but did not have success with either one. I only changed a few things. Most of the settings I left as default. Both templates can be found in the MainConcept MPEG2 group.
The first template I modified was HDV 1080 – 24p. I changed the 1440 x 1080 to 1920 x 1080 and changed the 24p to 25p. I kept everything else the same.
The second template I modified was HDV 720 – 25p. I changed the 1280 x 720 to 1080 x 1920 and kept the frame rate the same – 25p. I increased the bitrate to 25mbps. I kept everything else the same.
The only other thing I did with both templates was increase the video quality all the way to ‘high’.
I hope that helps.
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OK Patrick, the reason for the error message is simple. The chosen template to modify is intended for a specific device and that specific device is expecting the default settings of the template. In short there is a good chance the player would not play your file in the big screen. In the stand alone version of the Main Concept encoder you would receive a message along the lines of “does not conform to standard” or something like that. Vegas receives an error message from the internal Main Concept encoder but does not a means of interpreting the error message so Vegas will output a standard message of “something is wrong but I don’t know what”.
The trick is to find out the Device IE player typically used in the area you expect to play the file. Best practice is to contact the festival officials and render the files accordingly.
[Patrick Cooper] “The first template I modified was HDV 1080 – 24p. I changed the 1440 x 1080 to 1920 x 1080 and changed the 24p to 25p. I kept everything else the same”
The 1440 x 1080 can not be changed 1920 x 1080 for it does not conform to the player’s standards and will not play[Patrick Cooper] “The second template I modified was HDV 720 – 25p. I changed the 1280 x 720 to 1080 x 1920 and kept the frame rate the same – 25p. I increased the bitrate to 25mbps. I kept everything else the same. “
Again the 1280 x 720 must not be changed to 1080 x 1920.
As I stated earlier, it is best to find someone in your area who is familiar with the expected standards or acceptable file types. Don’t worry about the 1440 bit when you play the file in a device or your desktop the player will adjust the size to it proper dimensions.
Russ Froze -
Thankyou Russ. As well as future festivals etc, I also wanted a file type that would be compatible with playing back on a pc and a HDTV. And good to know that it’s okay to use 1440. I did not expect that since 1440 is a lower number than 1920 – I would have expected some of the image area to be cut off. I do vaguely recall somewhere among the templates was a 1440 x 1080 25p template. I hope that particular template produces a file that is compatible with a wide variety of devices.
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