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New to PPCS3 – Basic Questions
Posted by Anandabrata Ghosh on October 4, 2007 at 7:30 pmHi All,
I have a few basic questions and need your suggestion.
1)Crossfade : I have two clips, x and y. I have used the cross dissolve and blend effect individually. But still the cuts in my film are still very distinct. How can achieve a smooth transition from X to Y without it being distinct.
2)De-Interlace : I have done the Field Options –> Always de-interlace. Some effect but anything better will help. I actually want it to look as close to as film, since mine is a digital clip. Atleast let me know the options that I can try for the film look.
3) My original film is 30fps , windows media file, ntsc. I would like it to be compressed/encoded to PAL at 24fps. Is it suggested or am I messing up things too much. Also I want to maintain the frame size and create an edit for the web. I have noticed that Adobe Media Encoder provides various options. But so many choices are actually overwhelming, hence any tips will help.
Thanks and Regards,
AnandHarm Millaard replied 18 years, 7 months ago 2 Members · 14 Replies -
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Harm Millaard
October 5, 2007 at 1:25 am1. Check you have sufficient handles.
2. Do not de-interlace interlaced material. A filmic look can be achieved by shooting it, using the proper lighting, DOF, rack focus, dynamic range, etc. If you didn’t shoot it, you will never get the filmic look.
3. PAL is 25, not 24 fps. Secondly, NTSC is 720×480, PAL is 720×576. I suggest you use Procoder or similar to convert NTSC to PAL.
Why is the file WMF and not DV type2?
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Anandabrata Ghosh
October 5, 2007 at 6:48 pmHi Harm,
Thanks for the inputs. I have a few more questions regarding the same aspects.
1) When you say sufficient handles, you mean that the clips have sufficient trailing and leading edges for an overlap, rgt? And then what , I use cross dissolve. The clips are entirely different. So if there is anything else that I must consider please suggest.
2) I use the Adobe media encoder , and it has various frame sizes for various PAL options. I know specificcaly PAL is 720 X 576. But with these options I am little confused.
3) It is a WMF(wmv) because I choose so in the media encoder. Should I be choosing something else.
Please suggest.
Regards,
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Harm Millaard
October 5, 2007 at 7:41 pm1. Yes, that’s what I meant. However be careful that the handle does not contain part of a next or previous shot. If you get completely different shots in the dissolve, maybe deleting the render files may help.
2. Just keep in mind that PAL 720×576 has a PAR of 1.0667. It may be that encoding to WMF is easier with square pixels, 768×576.
3. Why would you go to the trouble of converting WMF from NTSC to PAL if your intention is computer display? If you were intending to deliver to DVD for playback on TV I understand it but then I wonder why encoding to WMF instead of MPEG2-DVD?
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Anandabrata Ghosh
October 10, 2007 at 9:16 amHi Harm,
Coming back to the question of crossfade. I have made a demo and uploaded the same. Please refer to link below:
https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7090101301335057324&hl=en
I have take care that I have enough handle from the first to the second. These are steps I followed:
1) Have both videos in Video1 timeline.
2) Overlayed sufficient amount of second video to the first.
3) Applied the cross dissolve transition.But if you notice the edit is still very clear and not smooth. I also tried with more handle, but then the first video would show at the overlap and then fade out.
Please let me know what else can I do to make the transition smoother so that it appears in continuation.
Regards,
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Harm Millaard
October 10, 2007 at 6:31 pmAnand,
I can’t see any dissolve at all, just a plain cut. Might be Google video.
How does it look when rendered and displayed on a TV?
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Anandabrata Ghosh
October 10, 2007 at 7:11 pmHi Harm,
I did add the cross dissolve and on TV also it appears the same. When I increase the overlap of the 2 video on top of the 1st . The dissolve appears but the 1st video shows through the second.
Hence I am confused. I also tried applying the blend effect but that didn’t help either. Do I need to combine with some other transition.
Regards,
Anand -
Harm Millaard
October 11, 2007 at 3:45 amAnand,
When you drop the default Cross Dissolve transition on the two clips and in the Effect controls window check it is centered at cut and you then drag the small triangle under the A monitor to the right, changing the start time from 0 to 100%, do you see the gradual dissolve that is intended?
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Anandabrata Ghosh
October 11, 2007 at 7:10 amHi Harm,
I have uploaded two videos:
1) First , with A as 0. the A video fades into B as expected.
https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1603176813544032315&hl=en2) Second with A as 100, as you suggested. But it again appears like a simple cut.
https://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7531098882633135968&hl=enI have also put a snapshot of settings in the second video.
I still can’t achieve the smoothness that any edits should have one shot to the other :(.
Wondering why?
Btw thanks for all the suggestions and help.
Regards,
Anand -
Harm Millaard
October 11, 2007 at 7:18 amAnand,
Thanks for posting your results and it is exactly as I thought it would be. Result 1, with A starting at 0% shows the dissolve you were looking for. Result 2, with the A track at 100% shows a cut, no dissolve.
I personally always leave the start of A at 0% and the end of B at 100%. For more complex dissolves I revert to Pixelan Spicemaster.
I assume that solution 1 is what you tried to achieve, right?
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Anandabrata Ghosh
October 11, 2007 at 7:29 amNo Harm :). That wasn’t what I was trying achieve. What my question was , that like we have in films/tv/sitcom etc. When shot cuts to another, you can absolutely not make out the difference. But here in the cuts that join together in the Premiere Pro are so visible and , it is evident that the shot has moved to another clip.
I was looking to achieve an edit which looks like it has shot together and the change from one shot to another cannot be made out. You know just like in a film.
If Premiere is not the right software to do it, then could you just any other which might be capable of achieving that.
Regards,
Anand
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