new titler tutorial

[Harold Brown]

I bought Vasst’s “ABSOLUTE TRAINING FOR VEGAS VOL 8”. It shipped out today.

[Douglas Spotted eagle]

On page 22 of the tutorial now, Mary. It’s deep, intense, and has a lot to offer.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
VASST
Aerial Camera/Instructor
Certified Sony Vegas Trainer

[Mary Waitrovich]

Cool. I can’t wait, Spot!

[Christopher Key]

This Titler does seem to me to need some sort of deep and intense tutorial – I wanted to replace “the Brown Fox” same as Mary yet cannot find any instruction on how to do it. I was able to replace the text but then the effect changed. When I try to drag a preset to the timeline as stated in online help it simply creates a new brown fox title, it does not apply the preset to my already existing title. Also, once I figure out how to use this thing, it would be nice if others could post presets online – since it only comes with a few.

[Douglas Spotted eagle]

Drag “The Brown Fox” to the timeline
Click the “Edit Text” icon on the titler toolbar, or zoom out in the preview area and double click the text.
Modify the text to suit.
Hit the Esc key or click the title bar to exit the titler (this is where many seem to lose the flow).
Now play your title.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
VASST
Aerial Camera/Instructor
Certified Sony Vegas Trainer

[Dave Mccallister]

The ProType Titler is quite fussy, and offers little online help to resolve issues like this and no written help at all.

With an interface this non-intuitive, and behavior this unpredictable, solutions and their explanations need to be very specific. Happily, once a given skill is mastered all will be well and the raw power of this titler can be enjoyed.

After extensive research and help from other harried users, here is the real deal on editing Collection text, following Spot’s outline regarding the Fly-in preset:

Drag “The Brown Fox” to the timeline

[That is, the Fly-in option on the Collections list. You will see nothing, so move the timeline indicator 4 sec to the right and you will see the words you need to edit]

Click the “Edit Text” icon…..or double click the text

[this brings up the brown text edit bar at the top]

Modify the text

[The cursor is blinking in the sample text, making you think that directly editing the text is possible. But alas, this will not work if the first letter is changed, in which case the animation attributes will be lost.]

[The way to really do this is to first highlight the entire sample text by holding down the left mouse button and then sweep across the text until it has a light blue background. Then, and this is crucial, DO NOT MOVE THE CURSOR BY CLICKING ANYWHERE ELSE. Doing so deselects the text. Just start typing your desired text and it will replace the sample text beginning at the first letter, all while staying highlighted.]

Hit the ESC key or click the title bar to exit the titler…..

[Well, let’s not exit the titler. Let’s just exit the text edit mode….]

Now play your title.

[That is, move the timeline indicator all the way to the left and hit the spacebar. At this point everything should work.]

[Now for fun play with the keyframes until it looks like alphabet soup. If only this thing was true 3D……]

[Douglas Spotted eagle]

I’m lost. You’re suggesting that changing the first letter of “the brown fox” blows away the animations? Nope…it doesn’t.
If you double click the text as mentioned, it will select the text.
I agree, the titler still needs work, but it’s not nearly as bad as some make it out to be. The beta teams figured it out pretty well with zero instruction from the engineers, and with no documentation of any kind.

Douglas Spotted Eagle
VASST
Aerial Camera/Instructor
Certified Sony Vegas Trainer

[Dave Mccallister]

Sorry Spot…

On my system, double clicking the text merely leaves it jet black with a blinking cursor in the middle somewhere. It must still be selected (i.e., so that it appears over a light blue background) before it can be edited or else the dreaded first character thing happens.

Several users on different forums have noticed this behavior. I repeated the procedure twenty times. Same result every time. To be fair, maybe the Mac Pro does not treat double clicks correctly. But it does for every other XP app I have.

In any case, following the procedure I listed will work. I’m simply trying to make clear the need for confirmed text selection before attemping to edit.

Dave McCallister

[Terje A. bergesen]

This happens to all users I think. The key is to move the cursor to somewhere on the time line where the text is visible, you can change the text then while still seeing it.

[Mary Waitrovich]

Jumping back in here…

Spot’s directions above work for me. The part I couldn’t see right away was exiting the text edit step.

I can’t double click the type to select it, but dragging over it selects it and then it can be changed.

I’m just happy I have a way to use this now.

Thanks everyone.

Mary