new Pro 11 update

[Phil Peacock]

Don’t want to sound like a ‘me too’ sort of contributor but I believe myself to be one of those ‘practical and conservative users’ that Steve refers to, at least when it comes to my editing station(!), and I am STILL having issues with Vegas’s stability.

It isn’t always that people don’t treat their editing tools properly, a lot of the blame should rightly be apportioned to Sony unfortunately.

[Mikhail Petrushin]

I agree that the system which is used for video editing should be tidy (especially from different “codec packs”) and this will eliminate many problems.

However, quite often the programs are buggy and tidy system with the latest drivers will not help.

I can send you an example project that crashes every time when I am trying to stabilize subclip.
Yes, I prepared this example, but Sony doesn’t interested in it. The send me messages that new build is out and probably the problem was fixed, but they don’t bothe to download my example and check for the bug.

Usually every 10th (or so) stabilization is crashed in my case. Very annoying. And quite unexpected for program that cost five hundreds bucks.

I tried to reinstall OS but this doesn’t help. Also, other people reproduced this crash on absolutely different systems.

P.S. I know, that Sony stabilization plugin is not the best, but I can’t afford to spend for my hobby another $200 for Mircali stabilizer.

[Stephen Mann]

Wouldn’t a tripod be cheaper?

[Mikhail Petrushin] “I can send you an example project that crashes every time when I am trying to stabilize subclip.”

I’ll give it a shot here if you want.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Mikhail Petrushin]

I already have and use not expensive tripod when possible (good tripod wont be cheaper anyway). Also, I have and use Hague MMC camera stabilizer (also when possible).
However, it is impossible to use all this stuff while filming kids at home, on the beach etc 🙂

I’ll give it a shot here if you want.

Here you are (~75MB, the smallest piece that crashed during my workflow):
https://depositfiles.com/files/ja2h8hl00
(I use file-sharing services rarely so I don’t know what is the best one)

Unpack it, open project and try to stabilize the single subclip that is already created (RMB | Media FX | Sony Stabilize | Apply).

The workaround: delete the subclip, cut one frame from the beginning or from the end, create subclip, stabilize.

P.S. I prefer that Sony take a look at this problem 🙂

[Edwin Duterte]

I did the update as well as the New Blue update. Now everytime I want to use Vegas, it crashes. Useless.

[Stephen Mann]

[Mikhail Petrushin] “I use file-sharing services rarely so I don’t know what is the best one”

They are all spam. depositfiles.com is one of the worst. You have to wait a minute before you can download, in the meanwhile you have to be spammed to buy their “premium” service. If you use their “free” service they deliberately slow the file transfer speed.

I am downloading your file now.
If I want to send a large file, I use Dropbox.

Dropbox is a cloud-based file sharing service that syncs file across all your computers. It works with files (video, graphics, text, anything) of any size, and it syncs automatically whenever a new file appears or a change is detected. Best of all, it’s free for a 2GB account. (And no spam ads). Use this link (https://db.tt/KCWoOts) to get your free Dropbox and we both get an additional 500 MB.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Stephen Mann]

[Mikhail Petrushin] “I use file-sharing services rarely so I don’t know what is the best one”

They are all spam. depositfiles.com is one of the worst. You have to wait a minute before you can download, in the meanwhile you have to be spammed to buy their “premium” service. If you use their “free” service they deliberately slow the file transfer speed.

If I want to send a large file, I use Dropbox.

Dropbox is a cloud-based file sharing service that syncs file across all your computers. It works with files (video, graphics, text, anything) of any size, and it syncs automatically whenever a new file appears or a change is detected. Best of all, it’s free for a 2GB account. (And no spam ads). Use this link (https://db.tt/KCWoOts) to get your free Dropbox and we both get an additional 500 MB.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Stephen Mann]

[Mikhail Petrushin] “Here you are (~75MB, the smallest piece that crashed during my workflow):”

You’re not going to like this.

First, I never found a need for subclips, Everything here is edited on the timeline.

Your veg file crashes at the end of the stabilization.
I used your original m2ts file and applied the Sony Stabilizer to it – no problems.
I made a subclip from it, applied the Sony Stabilizer, no problems.
Your veg file (again) and it crashes.

Hope this helps.

If you want to continue this, start a new thread.

Steve Mann
MannMade Digital Video
http://www.mmdv.com

[Mikhail Petrushin]

I never found a need for subclips, Everything here is edited on the timeline

I need only part on the media to be stabilized.
The reasons are simple:
1. It is faster to stabilize a little peace that is required than whole media
2. If I stabilize the whole media that required piece will be stabilized in a different way because stabilization process look for whole stabilized media.

Stabilization can be applied only for media, so the only way — create subclip and stabilize it.
I don’t use subclips for any other tasks.

Your veg file crashes at the end of the stabilization.

I know, I saw it many times 🙂

I used your original m2ts file and applied the Sony Stabilizer to it – no problems.

I know. I stabilized many medias and many subclips. I’ve never had crashes during stabilizing whole media.

I made a subclip from it, applied the Sony Stabilizer, no problems.

I know. The stabilization crashes for some subclips only. Usually I have one crash for approx. every 10th stabilizations. Probably it depends on where the edges of the subclips are. I wrote that if I had a crash I can “take” original media (from context menu) cut just one frame from the beginning/the end, create the new subclip and in most cases the new subclip will be stabilized without problem.

Yes, I’ve found this workaround for myself but I do not like these annoying crashes as I have to press Ctrl+S all the time (I do it before subclip creation), I lose history, current position etc.

I just wanted to show you that Vegas 11 crashes in some cases on rock-solid stable PCs as well 🙂
If you’d like to re-produce the crash from the scratch you can do following steps:
1. Open my project and delete all from timeline
2. Put my media (m2ts) on timeline
3. Cursor Position (Ctrl+G) 0.47 ENTER (frame 47)
4. Split (S)
5. Cursor Position (Ctrl+G) 2.2 ENTER (frame 102)
6. Split (S)
7. Delete the first and the last parts (this does not necessary)
8. RMB over the only part | Create subclip
9. RMB over the subclip | Media FX | Sony Stabilize | OK | Apply
=> Crash

This is not the media problems. It crashes if I take another region (1.47 — 3.2 for example) or another media (from the same Panasonic TM700 camcorder).

P.S. I’ve made a smaller example-project and uploaded it to Sony.

[Jon Muro]

I can’t seem to wrap my armns around this…like many this last upgrade is really bad on my machine. I have an AMD RADEON HD 6670.
seems to me the guys using Nvidea cards have more stability…no?

here’s somethinbg weird…I’ve been trying to upgrade my catalyst software to 12.4…but when I download and install, reboot and go back to contol center it is still showing 12.3. tried this many times ?????

any ideas about that?

running win 7 premium 64bit 8gigs of ram i7-2600

thanks
Jon Muro