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New macpro
Posted by Paulson Lang on August 16, 2011 at 4:46 amHi,
I am waiting for new macpro’s (Thunderbolt) launch to put a resolve suite. Am i doing the right thing?Thanks
PLSascha Haber replied 14 years, 8 months ago 11 Members · 17 Replies -
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Robert Houllahan
August 16, 2011 at 5:46 amProbably? Maybe?
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
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Ola Haldor voll
August 16, 2011 at 6:42 amWho knows when there’s a new Mac Pro coming. I for one, don’t. We can only hope for the best. Historically they’ve launched them around august/september.
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Robert Houllahan
August 16, 2011 at 6:50 amIt could be that Apple has entirely forgotten that they make anything with “Pro” in the title….
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
http://www.cinelab.comMAHC-PRO 6-Core 3X GTX285 20Tb SAS Wave Panel Panny 11UK SDI Plasma.
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Ola Haldor voll
August 16, 2011 at 7:25 amMaybe there’s an Mac Pro X sneaking around the corner. And it will be built in a 2U or 3U rack with possibility for 8 HDDs. Would be something..
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Kris Anderson
August 16, 2011 at 11:36 amThunderbolt will make very little difference to a Resolve suite. It already works without it. If you have work waiting, why wait longer for something that may or may not eventuate? If you don’t have work waiting then why are you getting a suite in the first place?
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Robert Houllahan
August 16, 2011 at 1:14 pmOne would hope that the next Mac pro would be rackmount and with more PciE slots and thunderbolt. Look at this board for what is available in workstation intel hardware these days: https://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=270-WS-W555-A2&family=Motherboard%20Family&series=Intel%205520%20Series%20Family&sw=5 with up to 12 cores and 7 high speed slots you could build a real GPU/CPU monster with this.
My fear is that Apple will dumb down the Mac Pro even more than it is now, i.e. a few thunderbolt plugs and fewer PCIe slots which would mean less internal GPU possibilities rather than more.
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
http://www.cinelab.comMAHC-PRO 6-Core 3X GTX285 20Tb SAS Wave Panel Panny 11UK SDI Plasma.
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Paul Provost
August 16, 2011 at 2:44 pm[Kris Anderson] “Thunderbolt will make very little difference to a Resolve suite.”
well it would leave whatever slots there are, open for GPU (with ultra studio 3D and promise raid external tbolt).
if it has 4 slots you could have 1 gui gpu, 2 render gpu, and red rocket inside without expander chassis right?
that would be huge (although maybe no different in performance compared with current mac pro with expander chassis)
but new i7 zeon 12 core or maybe even 20 core might even make a red rocket unnecessary.
there’s just a real temptation to wait for this big step forward and as the current mac pro box is soooo old and due for a redesign.
AND the new sony OLED monitors coming, AND new tangent panels, building a new suite will be sweet!
If you are loosing work without, then that is another story, but it sucks to drop so much coin to have such a big change (possibly) coming…https://www.postandbeam.tv
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Jason Myres
August 16, 2011 at 5:24 pmAccording to articles like this, Apple is waiting on the Sandy Bridge chips to be available for production this fall. There is also word that the chips used in the new Mac Pro will be custom to Apple which might delay the release a little longer than usual.
https://www.mactrast.com/2011/08/mac-pro-upgrade-could-occur-in-the-4th-quarter/
I think the more important thing, however, is will you even want the new Mac Pro? There’s a lot of speculation about changes to the new enclosure that will make it much smaller, hopefully rack mountable, but at the cost of both optical drive bays, the 3.5″ hard disk form factor, FireWire 800/400, and possibly some, or all, of the PCIe slots. There is a notion that the future is ThunderBolt-only, which would be in line with the idea that Steve has been fighting the use of expansion slots in computers since the Apple II era.
I guess the point is, many of things we have grown used to at Apple are changing. To assume the new Mac Pro will be even remotely similar to what we’ve been used to for the last decade may set you up for a surprise. So much so, that you may find yourself running for one of the last remaining Westmeres when the new design finally arrives.
JM
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Robert Houllahan
August 16, 2011 at 6:54 pmWell that is the problem with Steve Jobs, you never know where he is going, however with the sudden total destruction of FCP and X-Serve it seems fairly clear the direction they have taken with so called “Professional” users. I would venture to guess that a Mac-Pro with more PCIe slots is not in the cards, in fact maybe they will release a machine with no slots just a bunch of Thunderbolt plugs, who knows? There is this sort of insular group think at Apple that dismisses things outside the Apple universe, things like EDL’s Fast GPU’s and Blue-Ray discs, etc.
Good reason to build a Workstation PC to run OSX…….
-Rob-
Robert Houllahan
Director / Colorist
Cinelab Inc.
http://www.cinelab.comMAHC-PRO 6-Core 3X GTX285 20Tb SAS Wave Panel Panny 11UK SDI Plasma.
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Greg Leuenberger
August 16, 2011 at 7:20 pmI would wait (I’m waiting) – unless you’re actually losing business in the waiting process. Thunderbolt will take care of your RAID situation – and I’ve already seen one vendor announce an external Thunderbolt based PCIe expansion box. Slots are at a premium with DaVince – so I would think that waiting a bit should be worth it. The thought of having an external PCIe expansion box with a couple of fast CUDA cards in it is very appealing….
Not dealing with (yet another) Vendor and set of drivers for a HBA is appealing as well. Know what else is appealing? Sandybridge(!) : ) We may (not exactly crossing my fingers here) get a better BTO GPU as well.
If the new Mac Pro isn’t something you want you can always buy a used 2010 one.
best,
Greg
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