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  • new Mac, which is best?

    Posted by Jennnb on October 4, 2007 at 2:52 pm

    Hi,
    I’m looking to get a new Mac. I’ll mostly use it for AE, doing graphics and effects for film, working with 2k log files. I know Ram is important for AE, but what do you think about the
    8-core machine with the x1900 graphic card? Is it worth it or should I just go for a quad.
    I read the post on AE can’t handle more then 6 processors. Also, how much Ram is good to get? I’m working with AE7 but will also upgrade that.
    -thanks

    Kevin Camp replied 18 years, 11 months ago 3 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Kevin Camp

    October 4, 2007 at 3:58 pm

    the 6 processor limit on large frame sizes may be something that gets fixed in an ae update or possibly the next osx (don’t quote me on that, i’m just speculating. it just doesn’t seem like a major architecture change to me, just a bug…)

    the graphics card is not usually going to be all that important to ae, unless have opengl set to always on and set your render settings to render with opengl, which very few people do. its also worth noting that with opengl previews set to always on, ae cannot use multiprocessing for ram previews… same goes if you enable it for rendering.

    for ram, you’d like to get around 2gb per core for multiprocessing in ae (so, 4cores = 8gb; 8cores = 16gb). you might want more if you like having other apps open, like photoshop… you could get another 2gb per app that you like to have open with ae…

    you should also check with all your thirdy-party plugins that you can’t live without to make sure they have cs3/universal binary versions of their effects available… some are free updates, some you need to update tothe lateset versions and a few aren’t available yet (or if they are really old, not available ever…). otherwise you may find yourself forcing cs3 to run under rosetta and take a performance hit, just to get those effects.

    Kevin Camp
    Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Jennnb

    October 4, 2007 at 10:50 pm

    I didn’t think about the plugin issues I might also have…
    Thanks for your all help again.

    PS You helped me on a “flicker” on rolling credits problem last week.
    I was working with a very picky client and I used an even pixel amount
    on the pixels per second rate, going at a slow enough speed – it worked out great.

    Thanks

  • Kevin Camp

    October 5, 2007 at 3:05 pm

    glad i could help again….

    if you do a lot of credits, i had created a preset that you can download called flickerfree credit roll. it’s pretty easy to use… in fact if the credits just need to roll from offscreen bottom to offscreen top, you don’t even need to add and keyframes.

    it will work on any frame size or frame rate… it does all the math calculating that dave leronde describes in his method, so you don’t have to. the only variables you need to deal with are the comp’s duration and the credit list’s length.

    i’ve been thinking about having it provide some sort of message window with a recommended displacement value if the initial calculation give a value that seems to high, but i haven’t really worked that out yet.

    Kevin Camp
    Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Todd Gillespie

    October 5, 2007 at 4:02 pm

    FWIW,

    If AE will be the bulk of your business, you’ll really want to look at GridIron Software Nucleo Pro.
    https://www.gridironsoftware.com/NucleoPro/
    It can really increase performance, but requires 2 or 4 gigs of RAM per core? Something to keep in mind.

    Cheers,

    Todd at UCSB
    Television Production

  • Kevin Camp

    October 5, 2007 at 5:05 pm

    nucleo pro seems like a great addition to ae, i’ve been curious about the performance of nucleo pro versus cs3 multiprocessing render engine. although having the ability to render in the background and still do work on another comp may make it worth while even if the render performance is the same…

    nucleo pro should also help if you were forced to use cs3 in rosetta for plugin or codec** issues on intel macs. i know it was reported as a great benefit intel mac users who had to run ae7 in rosetta… nucleo pro provided some how worked better with the ram restrictions rosetta placed on ae (or any emulated powerpc software).

    ** i also should have mentioned that you will need universal binary versions of your third-party codecs too…

    Kevin Camp
    Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

  • Todd Gillespie

    October 5, 2007 at 5:23 pm

    Hi Kevin,

    I’m a little curious on the performace since CS3 too. But they do
    The demo I saw at NAB I believe also included a couple of ‘RAM preview’ options that would always be updating allow for ‘almost’ instant RAM previews. Plus a couple of other tricks, sweet app.

    There is a trick on getting AE to render (without Necleo), but still being able to work with it…can’t remember if I saw it on the cow or not. Never tried it, I need more cores. 😛

    Cheers,

    Todd at UCSB
    Television Production

  • Kevin Camp

    October 5, 2007 at 5:43 pm

    hi todd

    i had forgotten about that background ram preview feature… i’ll have to see what kind of money my department has left in the tank at the end of this year and try to spend it on nucleo pro….

    thanks

    Kevin Camp
    Designer – KCPQ, KMYQ & KRCW

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