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New Mac Pro? I’m waiting patiently
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[Shane Ross] “Not sure…I can only guess. My guess is they want to sell off what they have. “
So you think that this slow bleed is to sell off current stock? No way.
I’d be curious as to what your reliable sources say.
Look at what happened when FCP7 was discontinued, it sold out almost everywhere, that’s how you sell it out by saying it’s not going to be around anymore.
Look at the HP TouchPad, it wouldn’t sell, then HP announced a price drop and discontinuation, and it sold like hot cakes for a soon to be defunct product.
This post started with “I need a new MacPro, should I wait?” If Apple announced the denouement of the MacPro, do you think Jason would wait, or would he buy one?
Jeremy
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[Jeremy Garchow] “I am not interested in building our own machines. No thanks, I have enough to do.”
That’s fine. It may not be cheaper for you, but for those of us (like me) who can easily do so, it will be cheaper.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “The future they envision I am sure goes beyond an iDevice.”
I don’t think so.
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[Dennis Radeke] “c) Perhaps most interesting to me is (my opinion) that the Z800 is a better Mac from a case design POV than the Mac. Case design, entry into the system, accessibility, layout are all superior to MacPro which was designed in 2004.”
The shell of the Mac tower is from ’04, but the interior layout has changed multiple times as it’s contained everything from single proc G5’s, to water-cooled CPUs, to the intel chips it has today.
-Andrew
2.9 GHz 8-core (4,1), FCP 7.0.3, 10.6.6
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[Jeremy Garchow] “But do you do that with something like an HP z800 or do you just buy a new z800? I am not interested in building our own machines. No thanks, I have enough to do.”
I am not sure I would do it with the z800s. The main cost factor of a machine like that are the cpus and gpus and you may end up paying almost as much as a new machine. It’s different with smaller machines or special purpose boxes though.
I have built four linux servers myself and I would always go that way. It saved me almost 10.000 dollars with one of our shared storage servers which is in use now for almost 2 years. That’s a cost saving where it clearly makes sense to do things yourself. Earlier this year I changed the mainboard (to have more slots) and cpu. Downtime was 20 minutes and the machine is ready to accept four new client machines now without any modification to the OS. -
[Andrew Kimery] “The shell of the Mac tower is from ’04, but the interior layout has changed multiple times as it’s contained everything from single proc G5’s, to water-cooled CPUs, to the intel chips it has today.”
True Andrew.
My comment was around the idea that HP has ‘out-appled’ Apple in elegent form and functional design for towers. I’m on record as stating the HP Z800 case design is a thing of beauty and superior in almost every way.
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Which version of Linux are you using?
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Agreeing with Gary and filing under the category of Your Mileage May Vary:
[Gary Huff] “The Registry (and the all too frequent necessity to muddle with it): How frequently and why? I’ve hit up the Registry my fair share of times too, but only for special circumstances, and since Windows 7, it’s incredibly rare as well.”
I’ve been on the command line of a Mac many, many more times than I’ve dug in the registry on Windows. In fact, I’m not sure I’ve EVER been in the registry of Windows.
[Gary Huff] “The Ribbon/Aero (talk about sloppy overwrought chrome): I don’t really see this as a problem. I think Windows 7’s interface is actually kind of nice.”
I’ve grown fond of the interface as a whole too. And you can turn off the ribbon, right? I have in Word. Is there somewhere else I’m missing?
[Gary Huff] “Ugly screen fonts: Never noticed this.”
The difference is in the drawing: Mac optimizes for smoothness, Windows for sharpness. Two different goals, both legit. To me, Mac fonts look fuzzy.
Ironically, what finally tipped the balance away from Mac for me after 20 years of active Windows-bashing was Fusion. Running Mac and Windows side-by-side made come to resent every moment I had to spend in the Mac OS. I couldn’t stand it anymore. I haven’t booted that OS in five years now, and don’t miss it. Quite the contrary.
I’m not going to run down the reasons because they don’t matter. It’s my mileage and it varies. That’s the nature of mileage. I’m also not interested in evangelizing. Like what you like. I’m just saying that I made a lot of money running a Mac-only video production shop for a very long time, having Apple machines non-stop since 1979. The switch was not only painless, but a pleasure. I can’t imagine any reason I’d want to use a Mac again, not because I hate it or because Apple boo-hoo-hoo whatever. I just like what I’m using now a lot better.
And as scores of people have noted in this forum many times, the two play nicely just fine. It doesn’t have to be either/or.
It’s just a computer, man. Software? We kick software’s ass for a living, even if it sometimes kicks ours.
Terrifying? I’ll tell you what’s terrifying. An iTunes update on any OS.
The real irony in all this is that I can boil the “revolutionary” aspect of Final Cut Pro down to this one thing: it was the first NLE that proved you don’t need a tower to do professional Hollywood-grade work. FCP was the first seed in the destruction of the Mac Pro. FCPX is its full flowering — a post-PC NLE, designed to run on post-PCs.
Good thing or bad thing? Your mileage will vary.
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Workstations, as a percentage of the total available market of desktops is around 1%. Apple has, at best, only a few percentage points of the workstation market, which last year was 1 million units world wide. At best…. Apple sold $100M of MacPros, which I highly doubt. You have to realize that while large, $100M is 0.097% of 109Billion dollars or what Apple sold last year. MacPro revenue is below Apple’s round off error on their financials. It’s nothing.
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[Gary Huff] “Which version of Linux are you using?”
Ubuntu Server 10.04 LTS for the shared storage.
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