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  • Jason Brown

    April 6, 2012 at 8:25 pm

    So kind of timely…I got a creative cow advertisement for promax.

    What r ur thoughts? Anyone use this? Suggest? Warn against?

    I appreciate all the discussion, but I don’t feel much closer to a decision. As shane says, I should buy a 12 core. But I can’t imagine that apple would introduce thunderbolt with the intention of abandoning the desktop market. It seems u would want a high powered computer to push a high power connection.

    Hmm…well, I guess we will have to wait and see (or not see)

    I guess in the eyes of all u pros, what is the longest I should wait if it’s not urgent. I have the opportunity to get a new system now, but don’t HAVE to get one. When would it be do or die for apple to get something out? If not a “Mac pro” then a possible replacement?

  • Timothy Auld

    April 6, 2012 at 8:46 pm

    Sad though it may be I think you’re right, Chris. They just don’t seem to be in the mainstream of this business any longer. They do have a past reputation for coming out of nowhere and blowing other companies out of the water but I am really not feeling that this year. None of the broadcast/film publications that I read even mention FCPX (or Apple for that matter) even in passing. I think they are being foolish as a company with regard to this small but influential market. But, as my colleagues often point out, this is not the first time they have not listened to me. On the other hand they have amassed hundreds of billions of dollars in cash while not listening to me. From a business standpoint that is hard to argue with.

    Tim

  • Craig Seeman

    April 6, 2012 at 9:25 pm

    [TImothy Auld] “None of the broadcast/film publications that I read even mention FCPX (or Apple for that matter) even in passing.”

    https://www.4rfv.co.uk/industrynews.asp?id=141719

    Apple’s so called game changing editing software Final Cut Pro X was nowhere to be seen at this years BVE apart from one stand and the Post Production Room, but boy did it generate some in interest.

    Soho Editors Training’s seminar, FCP X: Professional Solutions was standing room only for the entire 3 days of the show as Final Cut Pro X was demonstrated fitting into a professional workflow, and a lot of the myths about the software were busted wide open. It also nicely coincided with a new Apple update of the software which included some big additions.

  • Timothy Auld

    April 6, 2012 at 9:37 pm

    Admittedly I do not read UK journals. Perhaps I should. The class citation is anecdotal at best. Show me something in TV Technology. Or any other publication reporting on what’s happening at NAB. Anyway, like Woodward, Bernstein and Bradlee, I stand by my story.

    Tim

  • Craig Seeman

    April 6, 2012 at 10:10 pm

    Apple has nothing to do with NAB so there’d be nothing to report. The “action” if any will be from the developers but I’m not sure what one might expect beyond a growing number of Thunderbolt peripherals which aren’t specific to FCPX and plugins which are and, with FCPX 10.0.3, the major ones are out already (although there might be more on the way).

    Plugins like Red Giant Magic Bullet were announced months in advance (of Apple fixing their issues).
    https://www.tvtechnology.com/article/red-giant-to-support-apple-fcpx/209488

    and FCPX update covered.
    https://www.tvtechnology.com/article/apple-hears-updates-final-cut-pro-x-with-multicam-support-beta-broadcast-monitoring/211560

    and plugin announcements which include FCPX support at creative planet (DV Magazine, Videography – but who’s website has to be one of the worst in this trade for the 21st Century)

    https://www.creativeplanetnetwork.com/dv/reviews/review-red-giant-software-magic-bullet-suite-11/17110

    https://www.creativeplanetnetwork.com/dv/reviews/review-genarts-sapphire-edge/17114

  • Timothy Auld

    April 6, 2012 at 11:00 pm

    Craig, really. Apple has nothing to do with NAB so there’s nothing to report? Yes, Apple has nothing to do with NAB any longer. They don”t have anything to do with NAB because they do not want to have anything to do with NAB. It is Apple’s choice, not NAB’s. Just as it is Apple’s choice not to publicly ally itself with any broadcast or film workflow. If they chose to do so then that would be big news. What third parties do in the vacuum that is FCPX is of no consequence. As I said they are, in my opinion, out of this business. Nothing but direct action from Apple would convince me otherwise. So let’s talk again in a the next couple of weeks. That should tell everyone a lot.

    Tim

  • Chris Harlan

    April 6, 2012 at 11:05 pm

    [Jason Brown] “So kind of timely…I got a creative cow advertisement for promax.

    What r ur thoughts? Anyone use this? Suggest? Warn against?

    Promax is a well-known, often used company by many folks here in LA. I haven’t really looked at the machine they are touting, so I can’t say anything about it. When I eventually go to a PC workstation, it will probably be one of the HPs, though I would also consider some of the Avid-approved Dells. That’s just me.

    [Jason Brown] “what is the longest I should wait if it’s not urgent. I have the opportunity to get a new system now, but don’t HAVE to get one. When would it be do or die for apple to get something out? If not a “Mac pro” then a possible replacement?

    A lot of that, of course, depends on what you plan on using on it. If Avid, you might want to peruse the approved models on their web page. If Adobe, you should probably pay attention to getting the right gfx card. Luckily, there is much overlap between the two, so you can get a fine machine for both. As to when, who knows? That’s a decision only you can make, based on your needs. There is no “do or die.”

  • Craig Seeman

    April 6, 2012 at 11:15 pm

    Your logic is circular. Apple is not at NAB so there’s not likely to be any specific Apple coverage baring third party announcements or a tangential announcement.

    There’s certainly coverage of FCPX in the various trades. Third parties with professional plugins and peripherals are supporting FCPX. There’s not going to be any major broadcast coverage until such time as some facility uses FCPX in that environment and undertakes marketing/press regarding such use.

  • Timothy Auld

    April 6, 2012 at 11:26 pm

    There is no logic there to run a circuit. There are only observations. If there is coverage in the trades other than puff pieces (and, yes I read your links) I have not seen it. And if Apple had the slightest interest in high end post markets then they would be, in my opinion, making the most of the marketing opportunities in advance of the biggest production/post production show in the world. Don’t you think?
    And if you do see a logic in my posts that you deem to be circular then I have to say that yours seems to me to be flat out byzantine.

    Tim

  • David Roth weiss

    April 7, 2012 at 4:15 pm

    [Chris Harlan] “Promax is a well-known, often used company by many folks here in LA. I haven’t really looked at the machine they are touting, so I can’t say anything about it.”

    Well Chris, we’ll have to rectify that – how about a personal guided tour of the ProMAX ONE by yours truly in the convenient ProMAX Burbank office?

    [Chris Harlan] “When I eventually go to a PC workstation, it will probably be one of the HPs, though I would also consider some of the Avid-approved Dells. That’s just me.”

    Maybe? Maybe not… Don’t rush to make that purchase just yet. 🙂

    David Roth Weiss
    ProMax Systems
    Burbank
    DRW@ProMax.com
    http://www.ProMax.com
    Sales | Integration | Support

    David is a Creative COW contributing editor and a forum host of the Apple Final Cut Pro forum.

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