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New Mac Pro Coming Soon?
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[Craig Seeman] “So where does this lead one?”
I was serious when I wrote earlier – the custom machines are most likely configured in some foreign land, like China or Mexico.
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[Craig Seeman] “So where does this lead one?
It just doesn’t seem like a simple HD shortage. Just shortages in 1TB drives doesn’t explain it given with iMac going to 2TB causes the delay. With MacPro a 2TB in Bay 1 and Bay 2 is only 2-4 days. So it’s 1TB causing delay in MP and 2TB causing delay in iMac?”I was thinking that they are probably separating the supply as hard drives are hard to get. They are leaving the bigger hard drives for the MacPro, the smaller hard drives for the iMac. Or something.
I have no idea, but I don’t think it necessarily points to new computers.
Assembly location probably has a little bit to do with it, but not weeks. I remember ordering the old AppleTV with the upgraded hard drive in it, and it came right from China in 3 days or something ridiculous. The slow boat to (from) China does not operate out of the Apple plants.
Jeremy
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The 6 core is kind of hidden. It’s a processor option under the quad core, been there for a while. But it’s 1-3 weeks as well.
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I believe all Apple’s iPods, iPads, iPhones and all Macs (desktops and towers) come from Asian suppliers. Apple has a very good supply chain. Better than some of their competitors.
Order a custom engraved iPod today and it states that it should show up in 6 days. And that’s shipped direct from China. At least the one I ordered for my kid came direct from China. To me, that’s a pretty impressive supply chain.
I realize that the computer industry has issues with the terrible flooding that’s happened and that’s impacting the hard drive business for everyone.
However, if you add Mac Pro specific items (excluding hard drives) to just about any Mac Pro all the lead times seem to jump from in stock to 1-3 weeks. That has not been the case, which was the reason this got posted by MacRumors. They spend their days looking for rumors worthy of posting. (note their not called MacFacts)
It’s not the same for an iMac, Mac Mini, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro. Add memory or change processor or graphics for any of these and the delivery dates change from stock to 1-3 business days. Not weeks.
The point is, when things like this happen, it usually signals the fact that a new product is coming. It’s also happening around the time Intel’s new processors are supposed to be coming out. It may be the Mac Pro everyone wants. Or it may be similar to what Apple did with the MacBook, where it was discontinued and replaced with a new MacBook Air. End of life, replaced by a new form factor around the same price and features. So, maybe a new type of Mac Pro? (cue Craig)
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[Kevin Patrick] “It’s not the same for an iMac,”
Funny. I found the opposite:
Change a hard drive from 1TB to 2TB for the iMac and it goes to 1-3 weeks.
Change Bay 1 hard drive on 12 core macpro and it goes from 1-3 weeks to 2-4 days.
I could post screen shots, but that’s too geeky.
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I think the confusion is that the MacPro 4 to 8 core BTO defaults to 1TB HD in Bay 1 and therefore adding any other component makes it a BTO with 1TB HD in Bay 1 and therefore 1 to 3 weeks. I think this had me confused.
If you change MacPro 4 to 8 core BTO to 2TB HD in Bay 1 and change any other component including adding 2TB HDs in other Bays it remains 2-4 days. Throw a 1TB HD any Bay and it changes to 1 to 3 weeks.
It would seem that all MacPro 12 Cores are BTO from the get go because the default 1TB HD in Bay 1 delays 1 to 3 weeks. In fact the 1 to 3 week delay is there even if you don’t use the BTO option. In other words a 1TB HD must be provisioned from inventory even for stock configuration.
iMac is the opposite since it goes to 1 to 3 weeks when its HD is changed to 2TB HD.
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So here’s the recap untangled:MacPro 4 to 8 Core becomes BTO when changing any component which means they need to supply a 1TB HD in Bay 1 so it delays
MacPro 12 Core is BTO immediately so even the default 1TB HD causes 1 to 3 week delay.
iMac only becomes BTO when changing any component but is only delayed1 to 3 weeks when changing the HD to 2TB HD.
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A simpler way of putting it.
Off the shelf there’s no delay.
MacPro 12 Core are never “off the shelf” so 1TB HD must be provisioned and therefore the delay.
Change any component in MacPro 4-8 Core and a 1TB HD must be provisioned and therefore the delay.
2TB HD doesn’t present a problem.IMac, the 2TB HD must be provisioned and therefore causes a delay.
So 2TB HD provisioning for MacPro is not an issue. 1TB provisioning is.
So 2TB HD provisioning for iMac is an issue.Supply chain is provisioning 2TB HDs for MacPro and 1TB HDs for iMacs.
Given the HD shortage and the high iMac sales, they get the 1TB HDs.
Any MacPro BTO that needs 1TB HD provisioned is delayed. All 12 Core MacPros are BTO. -
[Craig Seeman] “Off the shelf there’s no delay.
MacPro 12 Core are never “off the shelf” so 1TB HD must be provisioned and therefore the delay.
Change any component in MacPro 4-8 Core and a 1TB HD must be provisioned and therefore the delay.
2TB HD doesn’t present a problem.IMac, the 2TB HD must be provisioned and therefore causes a delay.
So 2TB HD provisioning for MacPro is not an issue. 1TB provisioning is.
So 2TB HD provisioning for iMac is an issue.Supply chain is provisioning 2TB HDs for MacPro and 1TB HDs for iMacs.
Given the HD shortage and the high iMac sales, they get the 1TB HDs.
Any MacPro BTO that needs 1TB HD provisioned is delayed. All 12 Core MacPros are BTO.“
Apple, are you listening, this is what you reduce us to by not giving us roadmaps!!!!!!
“FCPX Agitator”
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Sorry, I should have been more clear.
In the comparison I was making, I excluded hard drive configuration changes.
I was only looking at changing CPU (if possible), memory and graphics options. Changing these non-hard drive options moved the ship date out weeks for Mac Pros, days for the rest of their computers. For the Mac Pro, the date also moved out weeks for the RAID card.
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Take hard drives out of the discussion and only non-standard Mac Pros have long lead times. Non-standard iMacs, Mac Minis, and any MacBook configurations only add a few business days to the lead time.
This is something that has recently changed for Mac Pros. Which usually suggests something new is coming.
(must be a slow day, didn’t think this topic would generate so much interest)
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