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  • New Hard Drive Technology

    Posted by Sean Oneil on March 12, 2008 at 6:19 am

    Good news for anyone looking for storage. There’s a few SATA hard drives out using some new technology that crams 320GB on a single platter. There’s a 1TB Samsung, and a brand new 640GB Western Digital. These are inexpensive 7200RPM drives, but they’re blazing fast. They basically get close to 100MB/s per disk. You could actually have an internal array that can handle 4:4:4 1080 uncompressed.

    Seek time isn’t great, and reliability for this new technology is unknown. But it’s something to look out for and might be of interest to anyone building a new system or looking for fast storage.

    Petteri Evilampi replied 18 years, 1 month ago 7 Members · 11 Replies
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  • David Roth weiss

    March 12, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    An article I posted here in January said that by year’s end inexpensive 4-terabyte hard drives will be available that will be no bigger than the hard drives we’re using now.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Sean Oneil

    March 12, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    I’ve heard that as well. What I didn’t realize was that the new technology making them bigger is also making them much faster.

    Sean

  • David Roth weiss

    March 12, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    I think seek times are diminished because the information on the drives is packed closer together, so the heads don’t have to move as far to access the data. Its also supposed to make them even more robust. Of course, no matter how big or cheap they get, people will continue to fill up them to the brim and come here wondering why FCP keeps crashing.

    David Roth Weiss
    Director/Editor
    David Weiss Productions, Inc.
    Los Angeles

    POST-PRODUCTION WITHOUT THE USUAL INSANITY ™

    A forum host of Creative COW’s Business & Marketing, and Indie Film & Documentary forums.

  • Rennie Klymyk

    March 12, 2008 at 8:18 pm

    [David Roth Weiss] “people will continue to fill up them to the brim and come here wondering why FCP keeps crashing. “

    Now that most of us are up to speed with HD and the public has begun the migration to in home HD theater we should start seeing the 3D TV coming to market and get ready to gear up for it. :‹(

    It will likely require the extra space and speed.

    3D TV.

    Cut and paste if the link is dead:

    https://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2007/jul/19/newmedia.guardianweeklytechnologysection

    There is a ton of info on the web

    “everything is broken” ……Bob Dylan

  • Bob Zelin

    March 13, 2008 at 1:42 am

    This is my take on this. With any of the current drives on the market that you see advertised on Creative Cow (right on this forum, in the banner ads) from Dulce Systems, Maxx Digital, Cal Digit, G-Tech, Pro Max, and others, you can already get about 600mb/sec from these drive arrays. This is 3 times faster than is required for uncompressed HD, from multiple manufacturers. 1TB single SATA drives are readily available from Seagate and Hitachi. Hitachi is the company that announced that they will have single 4TB drives in early 2009. A single 1TB SATA drive will currently do between 70 – 80 mb/sec, which is fast enough for DVCProHD or ProRes422.

    And to my dismay, after my meeting JUST THIS MORNING with a client about the latest P2 cards (32 Gig), I come home, and see in “Studio Monthly Magazine” Panasonic announcing the release of 64 Gig P2 cards.

    IT NEVER ENDS, and it never will end. No matter what you buy, ITS ALREADY OUTDATED, and next years product that isn’t even released yet is ALREADY OUTDATED. The moral is DON’T WAIT – buy something now, and make a living for yourself, because no matter what you are waiting for, it will be outdated several months later.

    bob Zelin

  • Sean Oneil

    March 13, 2008 at 2:10 am

    I somewhat disagree with your philosophy that “it’s always a good/bad time to buy.” Sometimes there are important milestones and this is one of them.

    Sean

  • Petteri Evilampi

    March 13, 2008 at 9:22 am

    SEAN ONEIL!

    How dare you to arque with Bob?!?!
    He is anyway the man-to-be-listened, the ultimate auchtority of video!

    😉

  • Tom Matthies

    March 13, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    While I run a couple of Ciprico RAIDS here at work, at home I’m using the Hitachi 1Tb drives in striped pairs with very good results. I run four of the drives in Firmtek enclosures controlled by a f-port SATA card. This weekend I will be changing over to my new MacPro machine. Two of the drives will get mounted internally along with another 1Tb “utility” drive in the fourth drive spot. The Firmteks will still be used externally driven by a new eSATA control card. This will result in about 6Tb of drive space available for a pretty modest outlay of cash. I don’t do uncompressed HD at home, (usually just DV50 & a little DVCPro HD) so the SATA’s are plenty fast enough.
    I still have a pile of unused Avid 36Gb drives on the shelf that EACH probably cost just about as much as the whole pile ‘o SATAs I have at home.
    And it will only be getting better!
    Tom

  • Bob Zelin

    March 14, 2008 at 2:12 am

    How dare you to arque with Bob?!?!
    He is anyway the man-to-be-listened, the ultimate auchtority of video!

    REPLY –
    can I send this to my wife, because she NEVER listens to me, and always says that I am wrong about everything !

    Bob Zelin

  • Christopher Tay

    March 14, 2008 at 3:30 am

    You mean she said you’re wrong about everyone needing a black burst generator ? Woo…she needs to be careful there 😛

    -chrispy

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