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New FCPX user, what’s all the hate about?
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[Charlie Austin] “But the fact that everyone got sooo upset about Apple “killing” an NLE that, 4 years later, still works just fine, and can still be obtained with a little digging is kind of silly don’t you think?”
No. 🙂
David
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[Charlie Austin] “But the fact that everyone got sooo upset about Apple “killing” an NLE that, 4 years later, still works just fine, and can still be obtained with a little digging is kind of silly don’t you think?”
[David Cherniack] “No. :)”I rest my case. People still feel jilted. Knowing your NLE has totally stopped development still with bugs to fix and a swath of new cameras and codecs exploding on the scene has made many people justifiably cranky.
The reason there is still a debate is that although Charlie & Bill not only moved on but were delighted that doesn’t diminish the lingering unease towards Apple NLEs for many people. It may be silly to you Charlie but I still hear it every day from editors who are neither stupid or petty but will not go to X.
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[Noah Kadner] “I’m amused by the resistance to major change from folks who make major changes as their profession.”
I’m amused that you think people who do major change professionally don’t have valid reasons. Do you presume they are not able to recognise if changes is good bad or just different?
There are many on this forum who over the years have displayed knowledge, intelligence and wit.I respect their opinions. Some have embraced X. Many have not. I struggle to respect anyone who finds a valid alternative opinion so dismissively amusing.
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[Michael Gissing] “David Cherniack] “No. :)”
I rest my case.”
That’s not me Michael, I’ve never used Legacy. I based my comment on editor friends of mine who did and won’t forgive Apple any time in their next 10 lifetimes. And I have to admit, it’s also based on my feelings about using Autodesk products. 12 years after they killed edit* I still have a lingering bad taste in my mouth when their name comes up. I’m not angry, mind you, it’s just reflex. 🙂
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[David Cherniack] “t’s just reflex. :)”
So your reflux is reflex?
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[Noah Kadner] “I’m amused by the resistance to major change from folks who make major changes as their profession.”
I’m amused by people who view software criticism of FCPX as ‘resistance to major change’. It’s quite an entitled point of view.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Once it came out the school I was instructing at asked me to dump legacy and create a course outline for FCPX.
Since it was in its infancy, teaching the basics was never an issue.
And honestly most dedicated users will always be defiant with their own workflow.
Now this is just theory but I always thought the angst was directed to Apple and its then current state with the iToys at the time.
Back when FCP first came out, Apple could not do anything wrong.
Hey I have a few beefs with FCPX but honestly at $300 for five seats….maybe you get what you paid for 🙂 -
I see that this is still a heated topic. And I’m glad I started using it now rather than since the beginning. Despite my wishes, I don’t see it making great strides in the broadcasting world, even though it has some features that would make it a great addition. The TV station I work at they have plans to switch to Premiere next year, and I was asking one of the engineers that is there to show us how to use a new system if he thought there was any chance we might use MacPros with FCPX, and he didn’t think it was very likely. He also told me that most of the stations he went to were PC based.
Besides FCPX’s poor beginnings (for what you guys tell me and what I remember reading over the years), Apple dug themselves their own grave with these new MacPros. There’s no doubt that they are state of the art machines, beautiful design and powerful, but when you force the pro user to use USB and Thunderbolt for absolutely everything, and can’t choose an Nvidia card over an AMD if they want to, a lot of people are going to be on their way to Windows based solutions, no matter how much more advanced OS X is. You can expect to have to deal with USB and Thunderbolt when you have a MacBook Pro, but when you have a workstation, you want the ability to connect PCIe cards and change the graphics card if you want to.
If they would have come up with a MacPro design similar to the new one but maybe a little larger with space for PCIe cards and being able to switch graphics cards, I’m sure they would have sold a lot more of those. After spending $3,000 for the base model or $4,000 for the six core (most likely way more than that when you customize it) I’m guessing most people or companies don’t want to spend thousands more in Thunderbolt peripherals and accessories. Unfortunately, when designing the MacPro, Apple wanted something that would be too revolutionary and with amazing looks, but they forgot about pro functionality.
But hey, I’m happy to spend all the money I have if my eyes don’t have to see that eyesore Windows 10 GUI (or 8.1, or 7), plus the great design of OS X on functionality.
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[Sebastian Alvarez] “Apple dug themselves their own grave with these new MacPros.”
I’ll pull back a little from “dug their own grave,” but when we talk about various debates, I don’t think we give this one nearly enough wait. It was certainly a huge deal at the time. I think that there a lot of people who saw the long-awaited Mac Pro as the sign that their interests and Apple’s had irredemmably diverged.
This is clearly not the universal feeling, but that doesn’t invalidate it. There are forks in the road, and you gotta pick one. There are scads of die-hard Apple-ites in the COW and elsewhere who, after finally seeing the Mac Pros, suggested that Apple finally fork themselves.
Waiting for FCPX to catch up to their needs, or interests, was one thing. I really do think that more people saw the lack of meaningful updates to FCP, the arrival X, and delays to a new Mac Pro as a handful of straws…but the Mac Pro was the final one.
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