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New FCPX user, what’s all the hate about?
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yes, but american auto correct spells it the american way, like you guys spell tonight tonite and realise realize and manufacturing manyewfakturing and all those other quirky illiterate things you sweet simple people do.
https://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Diarrhoea/Pages/Introduction.aspx
that’s how the english spell it in english… what do you guys do – diarea? boom boom.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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Depends on the colour.
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[Aindreas Gallagher] “yes, but american auto correct spells it the american way, like you guys spell tonight tonite and realise realize”
lol… realize is the older spelling (from the days when we all pronounced “z” as zee), and “tonite” is “marketing spelling”, like xtreme. As bad as some American schools are, “tonite” is only considered a word if you’re talking about explosives. 🙂
Shawn
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[Bill Davis] “ctually, that’s likely the lovely world of autocorrect in play.
Try just switching the extension to .mov
Which both QuickTime and AVFoundation can read.”You make a good point (after all we’re all victims to autocorrect these days) but I think he actually meant .mod and .tod as strange as it sounds. I tried changing the extension to .mov and FCPX didn’t want anything to do with it, and QT player wouldn’t open them. FCPX is still fine with .mod, though, even if it chokes in the import window for a while.
Apple really needs to work on these format issues if they want to be any kind of competition to Adobe Premiere, which especially with the latest release is going to get more users than even before. I mean, if I can throw anything at Premiere and it plays without issue, while FCPX is picky about formats, many editors won’t have the time or patience to deal with that.
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pithy garchow, pithy.
https://vimeo.com/user1590967/videos http://www.ogallchoir.net promo producer/editor.grading/motion graphics
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[Aindreas] “that’s how the english spell it in english… what do you guys do – diarea? boom boom.”
In Australian english it is known as Dire Rear. boom tish
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[Gabe Strong] “Now there are plenty of reasons and some of the main ones are if you are a PC owner, a AE power user, need to exchange Adobe files with others, or have clients who use Adobe. Those ‘seem’ to me, to be reasons more often associated with bigger companies (ok not the PC owner thing but the rest of them :)… For anyone who is a one person shop and uses CC, why did you decide to use it? What advantages does it offer for your business and how do you use it to make more money than you could without it?”
I think a lot of the answer is hidden in your phrase “AE power user.”
Why might someone become an Ae power user in the first place? To solve visual problems that you can’t solve outside of a flexible, extensible animation/design/compositing environment.
I really like Motion, but Ae is my get-out-of-jail-free card [link]. I have a very high degree of confidence that I can solve or mitigate nearly any problem that comes across my desk with Ae, both in terms of design and workflow, and I can pass that confidence on to my clients.
I say this as someone who was an Ae user starting with version 4 in the late nineties, then a Motion user, then a Motion power user, then (and now) an Ae power user. I also say this as someone with a range of experience with a bunch of other tools.
The ability to solve more problems better and more cost-effectively than my competitors could was a huge advantage for my freelance business and now for our little design studio business. Also, moving from a pure video orientation to a design orientation (largely on the strength of Adobe CS/CC’s creative tools) has opened up new and better work opportunities.
That said, we don’t have a blind allegiance to Adobe products, and we are always investigating other options. This also opens up new and better work opportunities.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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[Bill Davis] “I don’t know the specific answers Sebastian, but whenever it comes to codecs, you are in IP land. Apple, right or wrong, seems to feel that they want to keep their software as free from relaying on “not in house” codecs to the extent possible. Obviously they are a part of the MPEG and h-264 style consortiums – therefor are IP clear for all that stuff.”
In fairness, Sebastian is not talking about some esoteric codec; he’s talking about MPEG-2 in an industry-standard MPEG container format.
[Bill Davis] “It’s a bit of a drag, but staying out of the codec business too far afield from their own IP – Quicktime previously and AV Foundation stuff now – leaves a lot of room for the VLCs and Handbrakes of the world to keep healthy. Which I like. YMMV”
My mileage does vary. 🙂 I’d like to see AV Foundation extensible the way QuickTime was so that developers can add codec and container support across the system as a whole instead of specifically within applications on a case-by-case basis.
A non-extensible AV Foundation requires developers to use only Apple-approved codecs, or to maintain their own media handling frameworks. In my opinion, either option is a step backwards from what we had.
Walter Soyka
Designer & Mad Scientist at Keen Live [link]
Motion Graphics, Widescreen Events, Presentation Design, and Consulting
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Walter,
Thanks for the reply. Sp I am guessing it would be safe to say you
are pretty decent with AE? And that your company does work beyond
video? Those seem like pretty good reasons to use CC to me.
Just out of curiosity, what kind of ‘problems’ do you solve with AE
that you couldn’t solve with Motion? Of course in my position as
ecitor, I often have to scold my unskilled shooter for giving me
problem footage…..o wait a sec. 🙂Gabe Strong
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[Walter Soyka] “[Bill Davis] “I don’t know the specific answers Sebastian, but whenever it comes to codecs, you are in IP land. Apple, right or wrong, seems to feel that they want to keep their software as free from relaying on “not in house” codecs to the extent possible. Obviously they are a part of the MPEG and h-264 style consortiums – therefor are IP clear for all that stuff.”
In fairness, Sebastian is not talking about some esoteric codec; he’s talking about MPEG-2 in an industry-standard MPEG container format.”
That, and the complete lack of coherence in how Mac OS X and FCPX handles them. The OS and NLE come from the same company. Quicktime player can happily play .mpg files. FCPX cannot unless you change the extension to .mod, an obscure extension that a Google search tells me was used by some JVC Everio camcorders. However, after you changed the extension from .mpg to .mod, FCPX will ingest it (after playing beach ball for a long while), but QT player won’t open the file.
.m2ts, a very common extension that every other NLE takes without a hitch, for FCPX is a day at the beach and be prepared to move the import window aside to work on something else (BTW, what happened to Steve Jobs mandate from about 10 years ago that no window or dialog in OS X was supposed to be modal? Yosemite is full of them, including all help). However, after some internal deliberation, it takes m2ts file. QT player? Error.
What about Compressor? It behaves like QT player despite being part of the FCPX suite, or at least much more closer to FCPX than to QT player. It imports .mpg, doesn’t import .m2ts. I haven’t tried much else though.
I find this all very strange since all of this software comes from the same company.
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