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nesting multicamera and audio tracks…loss of waveforms?
So I’ve managed to get through the ability to create and edit multicamera tracks so far, but have run into a roadblock.
I’ve got two tracks of video and audio from my two cameras. I’ve also got a master track of cleaned up audio from the sound engineer. Before nesting and creating a multicam track, I can easily see the waveforms, and sync the master audio to the video tracks. However, when I create the nest and the new sequence with the nest inside to do multicamera, the waveforms vanish, and I’m left with a red line. Now, when I’m done with the editing of the multicamera, I cannot seem to regain my waveforms on the multitrack sync.
I’ve watched and read a number of videos and written docs on multitrack, and none of them mention this part. I’ve tried un’multitracking the tracks after doing the mc edit, but to no avail. they all get us to the point of having created the multicamera and stop.
I also tried creating the MC track with the audio included, but that also did not work.
Is this a setting?
My question is:
After creating a multicamera track and editing it, how do I now sync my master engineered audio track to the multicamera track? In other NLE’s I’ve worked with, you continue to see your waveforms after editing in MC mode. It’s a trivial thing to do. Adobe does not seem to have a document that discusses this. There must be an easy way to get this done, that’s just not obvious in the workflow.Before nesting and multicam. Notice that waveforms are visible:
After nesting and multicamera. Waveforms are gone, with no easily understood method of showing them again. Theoritically, my engineered audio track would be able to put on one of those empty tracks, or a new one, and synced to the multicamera tracks.
Al
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Here’s how I managed to get through this, and perhaps it will be helpful to others.
- In addition to the standard process of creating a multitrack edit, put your main engineered audio track on audio track 1. This is the track you want as your final audio master for the sequence. Then do the nest.
Create your multitrack nested edit and do your cuts.
Dump the multitrack nested sequence to your main sequence
Export your media
What can go wrong in the normal process as described on numerous video training programs? None of them seem to describe putting the master audio track in sync on Track 1 and I have no idea how you sync it up after you do the nest and multicam edit, if you don’t get it onto Track 1. There are no waveforms left to reference after the MC edit. Did I miss something here?
There is a temptation to do your nested sequence and then export that. It doesn’t seem to work that way. You get error messages on export. So it seems that you have to take the edited nest and lay it onto your standard sequence.
Unfortunately, there is no mention of any of this out there. Please point me to a better explanation if it exists. I’ve spent a lot of time today trying to get this information from the web, Adobe etc. It just seems to not be explained anywhere….
enjoy…
Al
- In addition to the standard process of creating a multitrack edit, put your main engineered audio track on audio track 1. This is the track you want as your final audio master for the sequence. Then do the nest.
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Render the audio that will give you your waveform.
Sequence/Render Audio.———————————————–
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Thanks for the reply Ann.
So just to be clear, once I produce the multi-camera edit, using the nested audio track, I am supposed to render the audio track, and that will create a waveform out of the rendered track?
I’ll try that this afternoon, but wanted to make sure that’s what you were saying.
it also appears that if you put the mastered audio onto Track 1 it also still shows up. Not sure if there is downside to that process. Could be that since MC editing only handles four video streams that one of their audio tracks would not be processed by the MC editing. But frankly, I don’t think it matters since I’ve previously marked and synced the track.
I must say that once I learn the process of marking and syncing the tracks, it makes me wonder why I would need Plural Eyes.
Al
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i know this is a year old but hoping people will see this.. I really can’t get over the audio limitations of multi cam editing in CS5. I do a lot of on the fly audio edits as I’m editing, for example cutting out a section and applying an audio gain etc. Is there no way you can use the multi cam window for video but leave the multiple audio tracks showing as they were before nesting the sequence?
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You might want to investigate moving to CS6, as it’s been my experience that the multicam-editing has been improved in it. Not sure exactly your problems with it (I think I do) and it might help.
From your post, it appears that you want to do editing to the mcam sequence. Why not strip out the audio tracks first, after creating the sync points, then create the sequence, and add back in the audio tracks afterwards? I’ve not tried this, but it’s just an idea. It would then be no different than if you were using a totally separate set of audio recordings. You could export into Audition, and create the soundtrack, then import it back in.
Also, in moving to 6 I’ve seemingly lost many of my issues. I don’t have nearly as many problems. It’s still more complex than using some competing products, but it is very stable, and does a pretty good job. I’d like to see them re=engineer it at some point, as it’s still way too hard to do, as a workflow, IMHO.
Al
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