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  • Native AVC-Intra support in FCP 7. Saw on Apples website.

    Posted by Martin Jordan on November 23, 2009 at 6:44 pm

    I just saw this on the New Features page for FCP 7 on Apples Website:

    Apples quote:
    Final Cut Pro 7 makes it easy to work with the latest high-quality cameras from Panasonic. Native support for the AVC-Intra format means you can ingest footage directly into Final Cut Pro at high speeds — without transcoding. Work with real-time effects and edit with multiple streams, thanks to ultrafast decoding of both 50-Mbps and 100-Mbps formats.

    When I saw— without transcoding—I thought great big time saver. But I tried several ways to do this and couldn’t without an error.

    What is this process without going to LT and then transcoding?

    thx

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    Jeremy Garchow replied 16 years, 5 months ago 5 Members · 7 Replies
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  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2009 at 7:17 pm

    [Martin Jordan] “When I saw— without transcoding—I thought great big time saver. But I tried several ways to do this and couldn’t without an error.”

    What are you trying to do? You can simply open the log and transfer window and begin. Or you can skip that whole process and use MXF4mac QT Import to work with native MXF files in FCP.

    Jeremy

  • Dennis Radeke

    November 23, 2009 at 9:49 pm

    I think he’s talking about not having to use Log and Transfer which rewraps the footage to Quicktime. To my knowledge for AVC-I you can’t without MXF4Mac plugin. am I in error here?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 23, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    [Dennis Radeke] “I think he’s talking about not having to use Log and Transfer which rewraps the footage to Quicktime.”

    That’s not possible with FCP and probably isn’t on Apple’s website. They have a native AVC-I decoder, but they do not support native MXF editing. You will need MXF4mac for this.

    Jeremy

  • Shane Ross

    November 23, 2009 at 11:05 pm

    Native AVCIntra support…they support working with AVCIntra without transcoding it to ProRes, but you still need to use LOG AND TRANSFER to convert the files to QT movies…basically just wrap in a QT wrapper like it does with DVCPRO HD. So no transcoding, but still wrapping in QT.

    BUT…There are no sequence settings for AVCI, you still have to use ProRes and render out when you are done.

    OR…you can use MXF4QT (like Jeremy suggested) with P2 Flow (really slick) or Calibrated and work with the MXF files directly. But there is still no AVCI sequence settings, so you are still editing in a ProRes timeline. Just saves drive space when editing.

    And as always, you still want to copy all of your P2 cards from your backup drive onto the media drive so that you are editing the COPIES, not the masters.

    Shane

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  • Martin Jordan

    November 23, 2009 at 11:29 pm

    Ok, thanks guys. So like I thought, it still needs to go through LT.

    Hey Jeremy…here’s the link to Apples page where I quoted from. Scroll down just a bit. Easy to find.

    https://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio/whats-new.html#finalcutpro

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  • Daniel Lai

    November 24, 2009 at 2:49 pm

    Hey guys,

    Would like to share some of my experience with AVC-Intra footages. When you use log and transfer (LT), the rewrap to quicktime footages with Item properties of Apple AVC-Intra 100M or 50M 1080 or 720P.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    November 24, 2009 at 10:02 pm

    [Martin Jordan] “Hey Jeremy…here’s the link to Apples page where I quoted from. Scroll down just a bit. Easy to find. “

    Yes, but that is way different than working with MXF files natively. If you want a primer on that, I will point you my tutorial on MXF4mac. This tutorial was created before AVC-I was native to the suite. Now that it is, you can edit AVC-I just like you can other forms of DV (25, 50 & 100) with native MXF files.

    https://library.creativecow.net/articles/garchow_jeremy/dvc_pro_hd.php

    Jeremy

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