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  • Mysterious FCP Offline to Online process….

    Posted by Sebastian Guest on October 19, 2007 at 2:45 pm

    Hi all,
    I’m having some problems recapturing from a sequence I edited in OfflineRT res. The sequence has all multiclips collapsed.
    I rightclick the sequence I want to capture at full res, select Media Manager, the first thing that seems weird is how long the ‘Building list of used media’ notice appears – takes a few minutes. I’ve been told it should take shorter. (The sequence is 40 minutes long, sourced from perhaps four or five 40min MiniDV tapes).

    In Media Manager, I select ‘Make Offline’, ‘discard unused media’, 2-sec handle length. The new project appears, though before it does there come several ‘error connecting (clip name)’. When the project appears, several clips are still connected, the rest are offline – even though everything should be offline. I make the remaining clips offline, then I select the sequence and ‘make sequence clips independent’ – (I’ve tried with and without this step. It seems strange to me that no message confirms that the clips are now independent, though I guess thats just how apple decided to do it). I then right-click on the sequence in the bin and do a batch capture. Again, building the list of used media takes a while.

    And heres the real crunch – it always seems to want to capture the entire tape. Even if Ive removed all audio tracks and capture video only. Also wierdly, in the list of tapes it wants to capture, it omits tape three, and appears to need to capture over two hours of footage from my second tape – which is impossible as it’s only a 40min tape.

    In short – FCP’s behaviour for onlining the project is comletely flummoxing me – I must be doing something wrong, but where exactly is a complete mystery. Can anyone shed some light on this? Any help would be most sincerely appreciated!

    Jeremy Garchow replied 18 years, 7 months ago 4 Members · 6 Replies
  • 6 Replies
  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 19, 2007 at 7:50 pm

    FInal Cut will reconnect to anything that does not have a reel name (like motion graphics/pictures). Do those clips that reconnect in your project have a reel name?

    Have you also:
    UNchecked include master clips outside selection
    checked delete ununsed media
    UNchecked include affiliate clips
    UNchecked Include nonactive multiclip angles?

  • Mark Raudonis

    October 20, 2007 at 2:16 am

    Aardvark,

    This is a bug that came up in 6.01. Prior to that, your workflow would have been successful. Now, it just doesn’t work. Media manager won’t “shed” the unused media.

    We have observed this happening ONLY with multiclips. Here’s our workaround.

    Collapsing the multiclip sequence doesn’t do enough. you have to “matchframe” back to the ORIGINAL “non multclip” media and “overcut” it back into the timeline. Be sure to copy and paste any attributes you may have placed on the shot like effects or image changes (motion tab). Delete all of the “multiclip” shots from the timeline. Proceed to media manager. Now, the clips should shed all of the unused media.

    Is thys a royal pain in the butt? You bet. But it does work. Use your “feedback button” to let Apple know that fixing this issue is important to you.

    Mark

  • Rob Alexander

    October 20, 2007 at 1:21 pm

    That’s really rubbish on Apple’s part – I know storage is cheap but a huge amount of people still use an offline/online workflow, not least if they’re working on long form projects.

    Not that people should be expected to work around a problem which really shouldn’t be there but I wonder whether exporting the (collapsed) sequence to XML and importing it into a new project would cure the capture issue?

  • Mark Raudonis

    October 20, 2007 at 2:47 pm

    Interesting idea, Rob.

    Why don’t you try it and report back to us on your results? Suggestions are good. Confirmed workflow success is better!

    mark

  • Sebastian Guest

    October 22, 2007 at 7:36 pm

    Hi all again,
    Just wanted to report back that Mark’s analysis of the problem was correct – many thanks Mark, it’s saved me some amount of headache! I should add for Rob that the XML solution only succeeded in crashing final cut on me….

  • Jeremy Garchow

    October 22, 2007 at 7:44 pm

    I would submit this to Apple immediately. Multiclip media managing is busted.

    https://www.apple.com/feedback/finalcutpro.html

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