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My Spanish evaluation of the “State of FCP X”, a year after its presentation.
Jules Bowman replied 14 years ago 12 Members · 29 Replies
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Flavio G. garcía
April 15, 2012 at 9:41 pmJules, with all due respect, I am amazed by your warmongering and tone.
Again, I use and teach all three major NLE’s, and, if you read carefully my post, you will find
that I’m pro-everything, as I keep saying they’re all good, they’re all capable, it’s personal choice, etc..So, you use Premiere Pro? Brilliant!
I love it too, and I teach it, and I will write an article about CS6 very soon, but this one was about FCP X.
In any case, I’m not interested in conversations with a fighting atitude, so I’ll end this one with you here.
Regards.
Flavio G. García
Flavio G. Garc
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Jules Bowman
April 15, 2012 at 9:44 pmWith all due respect mate, we weren’t talking. I was replying to Bill believing misinformation is irrelevant.
You missed a rather large dash of irony. How can I have been using CS6 for 7 months?
On the flip side, FC10 doesn’t, it transpires, do background rendering. So despite not liking my tone, you’ve learnt something.
Hurrah.
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Jules Bowman
April 15, 2012 at 9:46 pmHow can I criticise about getting it right when I used shouldn’t instead of should.
Shame on me.
Shame.
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Flavio G. garcía
April 15, 2012 at 9:54 pmYes, I missed the irony.
And yes, I think your atitude is still warmongering and borders arrogance, whatever your words were headed to me or to anyone else.
Chill out, mate.
Flavio G. Garc
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Jules Bowman
April 15, 2012 at 10:15 pmI’d hardly call anything I said warmongering. But hey ho.
And, um, having an opinion isn’t arrogant. Being challenging to what I consider fallacies isn’t arrogant. If everyone was to agree with everyone and we just went ‘yeah, the latest upgrade of FCP was awesome’ well, then this forum wouldn’t have much debate.
In fact, the opinion you are criticising is perfectly valid. Misinformation isn’t irrelevant. And to dismiss a concern that this Apple marketing spin (background rendering) is becoming fact because of misinformed opinion is irrelevant, well, that’s just not right and I for one am happy to say that I believe that isn’t right.
People come on here, so i often read, to learn about others’ opinions on FC10 and thus aid in their decision making process. Perhaps to many £300 isn’t much, but if you buy something that isn’t what you were lead to believe it was, then £300 is wasted, and to some that is a lot. So, it doesn’t background render, like all the other NLEs don’t background render. And now someone who may not have known that but heard it does, will know that if they read this thread.
See how you’re a catalyst for others becoming more informed. That’s wonderful.
I think you’re being overly sensitive though.
Chill out mate.
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Bill Davis
April 16, 2012 at 12:06 am[Jules bowman] “With all due respect mate, we weren’t talking. I was replying to Bill believing misinformation is irrelevant.
“(in a calm and respectful tone:)
I do not “believe” that misinformation is irrelevant. And never posted any such thing.
So please don’t impute thoughts to me by name unless you do so accurately.
You have decided that apple’s information is “misinformation” – that’s your opinion. Fine. Just understand that unless everyone agrees that you are allowed to define what “background rendering” needs to be for everyone, your concept is not particularly relevant for some of us.
The new convention in X is to allow the user to set a period of inactivity, after which the software goes to work rendering whatever needs to be rendered. For those of us who actually use the software daily for work, we’ve learned how to use that smartly. And it’s a very nice advance over Legacy in an area that is “nice” for me, but hardly mission critical.
Let me help you understand why I say that.
I have two systems. I use X on my MacBook Pro – and I use it on my bigger but older desktop system.
On the bigger, but slower system, I have background rendering (and that’s what I get to call it since whether anyone else likes it or not!) entirely turned off. That increases performance on that particular systems slower processors.
On my laptop (dual core i7) the performance is so good that I leave it turned on and generally set to 2 seconds of idle prior to render initiation.
i’m experienced enough to change these settings on either machine depending on whether the timeline is long or short, the edit is simple or complex, or my deadline is rough or relaxed.
Finally, I’m glad you like Premier Pro. I hope you edit successfully and are delighted for your entire span of time using it.
I’m personally delighted with X. I feel I’m editing much faster than ever before, and actually, the editing itself is only about half of what really excites me about the program. Of the top 25 or so features that I don’t want to lose to go back to my pervious editing software (I’ve been a FCP editor since April of 1999)
rendering isn’t even on the list.It’s a “checkoff” for me. X renders faster than I’m used to. But again, “fast rendering” is not the core of what I need. It may be for you. If so, fine.
Rendering isn’t particularly relevant to what’s changing my entire approach to my video production practice and what I’m starting to build toward offering my clients these days.
X has sparked in me, a huge departure from the way I used to think about video production.
I find myself shedding years of preconceptions and looking at things very differently because of what I’ve learned studying X.I fully understand that most people just want to keep editing the way they’ve edited for years – just faster – however I don’t think “faster” is the key to the game any more. I think all that separates people who can edit fast from those who can’t is money for hardware and time in the seat developing muscle memory in operating the software interface. And unfortunately neither one of those form any kind of a “competitive advantage” in a world where no matter what crowd you stand in, you can’t throw a handful of beans without hitting a couple of video editors.
So again, “rendering” isn’t particularly important to me right now.
If it is for you, great. Keep focused on it.
And if you want to remain stuck on how another software company is wrong in the terminology they used to describe their way of looking at rendering – feel free to obsess on it as much as you like.
How you spend your time is your business.
Take care.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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Jules Bowman
April 16, 2012 at 1:00 amLegacy had background rendering toO then. When I stop editing I hit render and bam! Background rendering. I set mine to a second. Those of us who use it daily to earn a living learnt this years ago.
Bill, I’m aware you do a refined line in blinkered delusion with copious amounts of passive aggressive patronisation, but however you hold the picture frame Apple said FC10 had background rendering as a big selling point and it doesn’t. It renders while you don’t work. It starts automatically. That isn’t background rendering. At all. That’s not me deciding it for everyone, it’s just logical and obvious really.
My point isn’t that I need rendering or I even give an arse about background rendering, my point was misinformation becoming fact and a part of the justification for what I see as premature and slightly cultish crowing about a souped up version of iMovie that, I promise you, will NEVER achieve the status FCP reached before being ditched.
I’m really glad for you that you are so thrilled with keywords. It must give hours of fun for you and as an added bonus keeps the grey matter active so you won’t need to resort to crosswords, or boggle. That’s blinding bill, every little helps after all. But FC10 doesn’t do background rendering and Apple lied and still lie about it. And the OP perpetuated that lie.
And that, my dear chap, was my whole point. Which is pretty indisputable.
In addition, CS6 isn’t out yet, so, um, yeah.
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Bill Davis
April 16, 2012 at 6:49 am[Jules bowman] “But FC10 doesn’t do background rendering and Apple lied and still lie about it. And the OP perpetuated that lie. “
Well, you’ve certainly made your position crystal clear.
And I supposed it’s useful that you’ve finally uncovered Apples grand plot to put something over on the entire editing world through their insidious use of crafty marketing language wrapped inside evil mis-direction.
Now that you’ve exposed their pathology, I’m sure that abashed by your arch analysis, they will henceforth to be more sensitive to senior citizens and less abusive to cats and small children as well.
And just think, without you, none of us would have ever suspected the true nature of Apple.
Sleep well, sir. you’re work here is ever so well done.
(and in case you’re missing my cleverly disguised tone, no, I’m not being passive aggressive in any way, shape or form – a term that gained popularity long ago when applied, IIRC, to Mohandas Gandhi – but simply sarcastic.)
Have a nice evening.
No posts for a while. Off to NAB in the morning.
“Before speaking out ask yourself whether your words are true, whether they are respectful and whether they are needed in our civil discussions.”-Justice O’Connor
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