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  • MXF import oddities?

    Posted by Bret Williams on December 4, 2012 at 7:03 pm

    So I have some media from the client that should be P2 or AVC-Intra, they didn’t know. Either of which I’ve imported into X before no problem.

    When I mount their FW800 drive, in “import media” in FCP X it only shows under cameras, not under devices.

    So I highlight their drive, but the only stuff that shows is thumbnails and quicktime movies. The thumbs are from the files I want, but the QTs are just from other stuff on the drive.

    Down at the bottom of the import media window, it says loading x of 2550 files. Then, after a minute it seems to hang up and says loading 570 of 640. The little pie icon next to the “camera” device at upper left is stalled, with just a little sliver to go.

    The folder structure is intact, and I can import with 7 on the same machine no prob. All software up to date. Running 10.0.6 and 10.8.2 on 2011 iMac.

    I’m really surprised the drive doesn’t show under “devices” as I have lots of other p2 card folders on my drives, and they show up only under Devices. The only other thing showing as camera is my facetime camera. Dang it scares me when I accidentally click on that! Every time.

    Jeremy Garchow replied 13 years, 5 months ago 3 Members · 16 Replies
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  • Bret Williams

    December 4, 2012 at 7:31 pm

    New info – if I copy the folders to my pegasus raid, then I can import them via “import media” by just navigating to the folders via my device. Maybe something wrong with the clients drive or something. It’s OS Extended format, but only shows up in X as a camera. Shows up fine on the desktop.

    FWIW the files are simply DVCProHD 720p30. In 7 I can import these natively. It appears that in X I have to optimize them to ProRes 422. Can we not bring these in natively in X?

    In the past I brought in AVC-Intra 100 and had to optimize to ProRes 422 as well.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 4, 2012 at 7:51 pm

    [Bret Williams] “Maybe something wrong with the clients drive or something. It’s OS Extended format, but only shows up in X as a camera. Shows up fine on the desktop.”

    Maybe there’s some read only or incorrect permissions on some of the files.

    Jeremy

  • Bret Williams

    December 4, 2012 at 7:57 pm

    Just discovered that the creation date of the files is Dec 31, 1969. And the modification date is November 2012. That could be the issue. Still don’t know why the drive itself doesn’t show as a device or why FCP 7 has no problem logging and transferring as normal.

    Can you not import DVCProHD into X without optimizing it?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 4, 2012 at 7:58 pm

    [Bret Williams] “Can you not import DVCProHD into X without optimizing it?”

    From MXF? Not without a plugin. It has to rewrap.

  • Bret Williams

    December 4, 2012 at 8:05 pm

    So to clarify… In 7, I can import the mxf files and they get rewrapped to qt files (or ProRes if I prefer in prefs), but they’re still DVCProHD codec, 960×720.

    So in X, I need a plugin to do that? Otherwise it will import, but it has to get optimized to ProRes 422? Where can I change the ProRes 422 setting? What if I wanted it transcoded to HQ or 4444? Maybe I’m just having a brain fart of a day today.

  • Bill Davis

    December 4, 2012 at 8:11 pm

    I’ve had similar stuff happening. I think the X dev team is tinkering with the import workflow.

    I’ve also had the built in camera on my MacBook pro launch in X and have had some minor issues with card appearing to be “cameras” for import purposes. I’ve been able to work around these issues pretty easily, but I do think there’s stuff happening in X’s “import” area.

    I don’t have a clue what they’re working towards, but it’s made my imagination go into overdrive.

    My favorite totally unsupported personal speculation is that they’re pre-plumbing for a future live camera switcher!

    Just ook at what GoPro is doing with their WiFi backs feeding an iPad based multi-cam viewer. It would be AWESOME if X could enable something in the same direction where X could tap into lots of video signals live and let you control or switch them in the multi-cam suite.

    Totally pie in the sky, I know – but imagine if our iPhones could easily become live sources via some 802.11x future protocol? Just think of covering a concert and being able to “sniff out” video feeds from a thousand iPhones in the crowd if their owners allowed the “house video” guy some kinda pairing code?

    The mind kinda boggles.

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  • Bret Williams

    December 4, 2012 at 8:23 pm

    Perhaps that’s the real reason they broke down and added the second viewer window, eh?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    December 4, 2012 at 10:08 pm

    [Bret Williams] “So to clarify… In 7, I can import the mxf files and they get rewrapped to qt files (or ProRes if I prefer in prefs), but they’re still DVCProHD codec, 960×720.”

    I see what you mean.

    In X, it’s only ProRes. In 7 it was only DVCPro HD (you couldn’t convert DVCPro HD to ProRes, but you could convert AVC-I to DVCPro HD).

    [Bret Williams] “So in X, I need a plugin to do that? “

    I misunderstood you. Yes, you need a plugin to read native MXF.

    [Bret Williams] “Otherwise it will import, but it has to get optimized to ProRes 422?”

    yes.

    [Bret Williams] “Where can I change the ProRes 422 setting? What if I wanted it transcoded to HQ or 4444?”

    You don’t if you’re inside the app.

    [Bret Williams] “Maybe I’m just having a brain fart of a day today.”

    Not really, seems like you’ve got it covered.

  • Bill Davis

    December 5, 2012 at 1:52 am

    I suppose.

    I had it turned on for about 3 seconds when I first read about it. Since then it’s been turned off.

    I guess I’m weird, but I LIKE the way X works and don’t really need to make it work differently to be happy.

    Odd, I know.

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  • Bret Williams

    December 5, 2012 at 2:02 am

    Well I use 2 screens. One dedicated to events, so I have the real estate. In ordinary editing it’s not necessary. Just certain times. Ganging needs to be re-implemented somehow. Maybe in 10.0.8

    So you’ll switch a live show with just one monitor? 🙂

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