Multiple Sony Vegas 12 Issues

[Mark Barton]

Also try to rule out an NVidia driver issue. There have been many reports where the 306.23 version has been causing problems. I have the NVidia GTX570 with a 800W power supply. Some people have added the NVidia cards afterwards and not checked that the power supply can keep up.

As a test, I would try turning off the GPU and see if you still get those crashes. If it is more stable then you can try changing the NVidia driver version used.

[Joost Zeeveneegelbeek]

I have a Ati Radeon HD GPU, which is what Sony has tested and approved to use with Pro 12, and still after about a second of previewing Pro 12 crashes every time. Removed both Vegas versions from my computer and re-installed Pro 12. No improvement.
Also strange that when opening the project (consisting of just one track of stereo video and audio)the counter at the bottom instanteniously says 26% and stays there for over a minute before the track is visible on the timeline. Project properties seem okay.

Any thoughts?

J.J.

[Mark Barton]

[Joost Zeeveneegelbeek] “Also strange that when opening the project (consisting of just one track of stereo video and audio)the counter at the bottom instanteniously says 26% and stays there for over a minute before the track is visible on the timeline. Project properties seem okay.”

I might suspect power saving features as it spins up drives where the media for the project is located. My external USB drive always seems to be asleep since I only occasionally access it.

Have you gone through some of the basic optimizations for setting up Vegas Pro yet? Typically turn off system sounds and power management features, place media on a drive other than the OS drive, etc.

Also keep an eye on Vegas with Task Manager as you are troubleshooting. From the View menu of Task manager you can add GDI Objects. There is a limit per process, so if you start getting above 5,000 it might be a good time to save and relaunch Vegas again. Check it before a render.

As for the preview issues, it is most likely the video driver. Try turning off the Windows 7 Aero (eye candy) features and see if turning off the GPU feature in Vegas reduces the problems you are having. That is not a fix, just a way to narrow where the problem may be.

[Joost Zeeveneegelbeek]

Thanks Mark. Tried it.
My media are on an internal, not-OS drive, which is in use when I start Vegas. Aero is off, as are all firewalls, powersaving, gadgets, internet, and mediarelated software other than Vegas. Whether GPU is on or off doesn’t seem to matter.

It can’t be that there’s too much going on already, because I only start up Vegas and try to preview the only track in it, right after startup. Closing down and trying again just gives the same result. This is with stereo media.
When I tried an old project in HD and previewed it, there seemed to be no problem. I haven’t tried extensive HD-projects yet. Before I installed the new GPU, multiple HD tracks made preview in best quality near impossible.

Hope someone has a Eureka moment…… I’m fresh out.

[Bernie Lademann]

I have had similar issues with Vegas Pro 11 and now with the recently installed Vegas Pro 12. I had a eureka moment yesterday when I upgraded the nVidia driver. I have a Quadro 2000 card and was running the 306.79 driver (and many previous drivers) and found that anything that involved the preview window being displayed would result in the eventual Vegas crash. In fact if you try to close the preview window completely and try to render you may get an instant crash! (Even when rendering using a codec which allows turning off the GPU acceleration)

When I upgraded the driver to 307.32 yesterday, it took much longer to crash (with nothing else changed on the Sony side). My conclusion is that most of the issues people are reporting about “GPU” acceleration can be narrowed down to the interaction of Vegas Pro with the video drivers. Unfortunately, with two big manufacturers involved it is easy to pass the blame on to the other party.

Let’s hope that we can get a “Partner Certified Driver” from nVidia in the future. In the short term, we should suggest to Sony that they allow us to “turn off preview update while rendering” in the options. This should get lot’s of people out of trouble.

[Joost Zeeveneegelbeek]

In my case the preview works fine with regular video, but with stereo HD it just won´t work. I still have to try converting to another codec, but find it strange that any video that conforms to the timeline, might not work, while other video will without any hitch.

[Bernie Lademann]

To be exact, I have only tried Vegas with AVCHD footage shot in 1920×1080 50i, so I cannot comment about other types of footage. To Sony’s credit, I have not had to transcode the footage to another format to do editing, however, I have been able to work with this footage from Version 10 onwards and the GPU dependency problem described has crept in when this feature was initially added.

[Richie Allen]

Hi, I have an Nvidia card and after I disabled the “GPU Acceleration of video processing” in the options/preferences/video tab, the freezing issue ceased. I hope this helps…

[Bernie Lademann]

Yes, I run my Vegas now with GPU Acceration off as well. It does clear up most of the issues. It does make me wonder though, what Sony had in mind when they promoted that the product would run faster in any way whatsoever. Any crash or lockup = lost productivity. Any artifact in final render = lost productivity. Too much lost productivity and people change their production tools.

Ok, so Sony suggests using a professional graphics card, such as the Quadro. Mine is a Quadro 2000! I don’t get it. I am still keeping my fingers crossed that the next update/patch has a permanent stability fix. When this happens, it will be simply the best product on the market for video editing.

[Steve Frank]

Maybe it’s just time to change to a more stable NLE. I’m trying out Vegas Pro 12 this time instead of just purchasing like I did 8, 10 and 11. (and of course it’s crapping out just like 11 did) I never did get 11 to work properly even though my machine was well beyond specs. Vegas 8 and 10, no problem…as long as you’re editing in SD. No, I’m tired of trying 50 things and searching every forum to try to get bad sw to work at a basic level. Sure was a lot of effort, time and money wasted.