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    Multiclip nightmare

    Posted by Don Wilson on May 5, 2010 at 3:39 am

    Hi all,

    Missed saying hi to Bob at the usual get togethers and sure Walter was stuck in a booth and beat. But oh I needed a Lost Wages trip..

    Writing here to ask the ones who know best…

    Second big concert in a row where I’m editing right eye or single stream ProRez LT 1080i/29.97 captured with LHi and playing on Kona 3 and the LHi system. One system older 4 processor 3x4gig/8ram/Kona 3 and other a brand new octo with LHi. Have smoking drives/arrays. Done this style a lot to but last two have been painful. We capture from HDCamSR the right eye or single stream in the PRLT codec and edit usually with a 9 UP multiclip. Wasn’t a problem until we jumped to the LT codec… I think, maybe coincidence. Get GREEN flickering in the canvas/viewer, things get funky fast and then the voodoo doll gets the poke. Get lots of “VideoPipe” and “KGCore” reports. Several others too.

    Have gone to extremes…stripped down to GFX card/8800GT and Highpoint 2340 raid controller, trashed all and re-installed FCP and did the update download from support site, not software update. Could there be a similar problem with this codec like the one had with the Red proxies?

    Killin’ my vibe and making impending delivery look like all-nighters (y’all laugh!). We crash 30 times a day sometimes recently.

    Sorry to show up and whine. On the upside I got me a little project sports car and am tearing it apart, cleaning it like an OCD editor, putting it back together and it’s working gooooood.

    Thanks all,
    Don Wilson

    Don Wilson
    donwilson.tv
    AmericanaMediaInc.com
    MississippiSon.com
    818.660.2915 studio
    818.207.6924 cell
    818.760.1828 fax

    Jeremy Garchow replied 15 years, 11 months ago 4 Members · 8 Replies
  • 8 Replies

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 6, 2010 at 12:26 pm

    VideoPipe?

  • Gustavo Mendes

    May 6, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    After some tests I did, I would say to not use the LT codec, something is not right about it. It crashes my FCP and uses more processing power than the other codecs.

    It’s easy for me to say for you to recapture as 422 or Proxy, but I do not know how far along you’re into the gig…

  • Don Wilson

    May 6, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    Jeremy, it’s the first line of the crash report, often says Video Pipe…

    We’re finding the ProPes LT codec problematic. Tests with it vs others is showing it acts like the Red Proxy problems stated on the Cow. Sure wish we’d known about it before 60 hours of material was digitized…

    Cheers,
    Don

    Don Wilson
    donwilson.tv
    AmericanaMediaInc.com
    MississippiSon.com
    818.660.2915 studio
    818.207.6924 cell
    818.760.1828 fax

  • Bob Zelin

    May 6, 2010 at 10:21 pm

    Gee Don, if I was having problems with a codec (like LT or Proxy), I would have tested ANY other codec before I spent 60 hours digitizing. I feel your pain. The HDV Codec works fine, and while you state that your drive array is “smokin !”, do I trust your Highpoint card to perform a 9 camera shoot ? Absolutely not – so you have to redig at least a little material, and try another codec (like nice boring ProRes422, or even HDV) – just to see what happens. These days, with all the new issues, I ALWAYS assume that nothing is going to work, and am just happy when things DO work.

    Bob Zelin

  • Don Wilson

    May 6, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    Hi Bob,

    Old ProRez422 works just fine. I was given the project with most of the material already captured sans a few audience shots etc. Just finished a 3D concert film where we were “provided” a workflow by a vendor and it too was PR LT(right eye) and lots of the same issues there too, fiber to server drives. Were told by their “expert” that it was our project and not the workflow…NOT. Tried moving a song’s worth of footage to my internals and it had same problems. Walking lightly and turning off all unnecessary things to lower the processor demands. Did do the PR422 test with one song, worked find, and if I didn’t have to deliver so soon I’d recapture it all to avoid long stares at the second story ledge…

    Cheers there in sunny Fla.

    Don Wilson
    donwilson.tv
    AmericanaMediaInc.com
    MississippiSon.com
    818.660.2915 studio
    818.207.6924 cell
    818.760.1828 fax

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 12, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    [Don Wilson] “often says Video Pipe… “

    I’d be curious to see what that really says.

  • Don Wilson

    May 13, 2010 at 9:36 am

    Here ya go Jeremy:

    Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
    Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0000000000000004
    Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread

    Thread 0 Crashed: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0043b92b VideoPipe::SequenceTimeToMovieTime(double, unsigned char*) + 27
    1 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0045f12e SetupSrcCanvasN(XXGlobals*, EffectTree*, long, long, Output*, bool*) + 182
    2 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00460bc1 DecodeEffectFrameN(XXGlobals*, EffectTree*, long, unsigned char, Output*, bool*) + 267
    3 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x004619c3 DecodePipeTree(XXGlobals*, Output*) + 633
    4 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0042b9b5 FCPMediaHandler::RenderFrames(long long, bool) + 3981
    5 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0042c01b FCPMediaHandler::Idle(long, long, long*, TimeRecord*) + 657
    6 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0042d0e5 FCPMHIdle(FCPMediaHandler*, long, long, long*, TimeRecord*) + 45
    7 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96f2a9b1 callComponentStorage_44444 + 49
    8 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96f1f6f0 CallComponentFunctionCommonWithStorage(char**, ComponentParameters*, long (*)(), unsigned long) + 54
    9 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00425ea9 FCPMHDispatch(ComponentParameters*, char**) + 59
    10 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96f17d87 CallComponentDispatch + 29
    11 …ickTimeComponents.component 0x948c022b MediaIdle + 61
    12 …ickTimeComponents.component 0x9413cd22 doGenericIdle + 2991
    13 …ickTimeComponents.component 0x9413eb57 GenericMoviesTask + 357
    14 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96f2a9b1 callComponentStorage_44444 + 49
    15 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96f1f6f0 CallComponentFunctionCommonWithStorage(char**, ComponentParameters*, long (*)(), unsigned long) + 54
    16 …ickTimeComponents.component 0x9413e2aa GenericComponentDispatch + 182
    17 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00425ec5 FCPMHDispatch(ComponentParameters*, char**) + 87
    18 …ple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x96f17d87 CallComponentDispatch + 29
    19 com.apple.QuickTime 0x97b9ca3a MediaMoviesTask + 61
    20 com.apple.QuickTime 0x97b9b7d3 TaskMovie_priv + 4808
    21 com.apple.QuickTime 0x97bae625 MoviesTask_priv + 101
    22 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x001ba8ba DoMoviesTask(KGPlayerRec*) + 2388
    23 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x001cd5e3 DisplayMovie(KGPlayerRec*) + 2201
    24 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x001d1ada pKGPlayerUpdate(KGPlayerRec*) + 196
    25 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x001bac26 pKGPlayerDelayedUpdate(KGPlayerRec*, double) + 54
    26 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00068a77 pKGClipFinishEdits(KGDictInt*, double, KGErrorCode, unsigned char) + 1971
    27 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00240289 pKGInvalidateFilesInClip(KGDictInt*, KGFileRec**, long, unsigned char*) + 205
    28 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00240424 pKGInvalidateFilesInBin(KGDictInt*, KGFileRec**, long) + 318
    29 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x002403e1 pKGInvalidateFilesInBin(KGDictInt*, KGFileRec**, long) + 251
    30 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x002403e1 pKGInvalidateFilesInBin(KGDictInt*, KGFileRec**, long) + 251
    31 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00243223 VerifyFileDateStamps() + 711
    32 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x001598ea DoEvent(OpaqueEventRef*, KGDictInt*) + 7640
    33 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00414213 Events(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 67
    34 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x903110a9 DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 1567
    35 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90310370 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411
    36 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x903101cf SendEventToEventTargetWithOptions + 58
    37 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90344d10 ToolboxEventDispatcherHandler(OpaqueEventHandlerCallRef*, OpaqueEventRef*, void*) + 3006
    38 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x903114fa DispatchEventToHandlers(EventTargetRec*, OpaqueEventRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 2672
    39 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90310370 SendEventToEventTargetInternal(OpaqueEventRef*, OpaqueEventTargetRef*, HandlerCallRec*) + 411
    40 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x90332b55 SendEventToEventTarget + 52
    41 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x904bbdf7 ToolboxEventDispatcher + 86
    42 com.apple.HIToolbox 0x904bbf2f RunApplicationEventLoop + 243
    43 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x0015396f KGMainEvent(void*) + 51
    44 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x002c10e8 main + 54
    45 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x00002d7b _start + 209
    46 com.apple.FinalCutPro 0x000

    Don Wilson
    donwilson.tv
    AmericanaMediaInc.com
    MississippiSon.com
    818.660.2915 studio
    818.207.6924 cell
    818.760.1828 fax

  • Jeremy Garchow

    May 13, 2010 at 3:33 pm

    Thanks, you have contacted AJA about this problem? I would send the crash report.

    Jeremy

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