Moving to Intel by 2007 is true

[George Loch]

[Will MacNeil] “Does this mean we have to hear that ridiculous Intel Inside Da Dum De Dum tune every time we see an Apple ad?”

Or worse… the ugly “intel inside” sitcker

This is very big and welcome news. I for one am hoping for a dual boot capability. That would be huge for me.

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[Mike James]

George Loch said: “””Or worse… the ugly “intel inside” sitcker”””

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You mean like this 🙂 🙂 🙂

“Leopard Inside”
https://www.finalcutonline.com/images/leopard.jpg

[Nick Westbridge]

Here’s my question. Up until I heard these rumours on Friday, I had decided to purchase a G5 2.7ghz system (probably closer to the end of the summer, when I had enough $ set aside). I currently run Premiere Pro on my PC. It’s certainly not ideal, but the price was right and I didn’t need to purchase any new hardware at the time. I’m starting to take on more advanced projects, and Final Cut is defintely the program I want to run (I’ve used it extensively before, just never owned my own system).

That said, would it be foolish to sink a lot of money into a G5 system in the fall if there’s a chance it’ll be replaced by Apple so soon? I know there are so few details at this point, so answering that might be hard. I think my biggest concern would be resale value. I had always counted on the fact that I could sell any Mac for a decent return down the line. I’m just looking for opinions on whether or not people think that the value of PPC G5s will drop drastically? And how long do you think they’ll continue to be supported? Like I said, I know there are no real answers for these questions right now, I’m just looking for educated opinions from the best bunch of Mac users on the Net. =)

[Michael Horton]

To early to say but one suspects PPC and Intel to be running side by side for quite awhile. Going to be a tough sale for the spin doctors at Apple to convince Mac buyers that it is OK to buy PPC macs in 2005. But my guess is that a purchase of a G5 in Fall of 2005 will still be running current and future apps in 2010.

If Apple has indeed been compiling its OS and apps for both PPC and Intel for 5 years on a “just in case” basis, what makes us think that it will put all it’s eggs in one basket?

Michael Horton
lafcpug
https://www.lafcpug.org

[Paul Harb]

Sounds like running a Windows version of Avid Express on your Mac inside of Virtual PC.

[Graeme Nattress]

As far as I understand, Apple are going to be rather careful with this transition so that all apps will run on all macs. All new apps will be dual PPC/Intel, and all old apps will run due to their magic translation wizardry, so old macs won’t get left out in the cold. It might make for slightly larger downloads of applications, but that will be about it.

99.9% of mac users won’t notice a difference between running a PPC mac and an Intel mac. They’ll just run like they’ve always run their software, and it will “just work”.

However, as Apple use this to become more popular and take on the Dragon that is Microsoft, they’ll have to be increasingly careful about spyware and viruses, but at least they’re starting from a better position on that.

I really think that for most users, they won’t notice the transition.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

[Alan]

Hey Graeme, still moving to Vegas by the end of the week?

[Graeme Nattress]

If I can get Vegas to run on the Apple Intel Dev mac I would 🙂 But seriously, I don’t think that this is going to harm mac users other than by making them more popular. Apple will be better poised than anyone to make OS X run on practically any architecture, and that’s got to be good for the long term. I don’t think user friendly Unix (which is what OS X is) is going to dissapear overnight.

My only real concern is that it will now b very fast to emulate windows apps on a mac, and this might mean that some software developers will just develop windows versions, and not true OS X versions, and they’ll use the architecture shift as an excuse for this.

However, Apple can’t just stop at moving to Intel processors – we need PCI Express, better graphics cards with better GPUs etc. etc.

Graeme

– http://www.nattress.com – Film Effects for FCP

[Joslyn]

so i guess it is safe to say that purchasing a G5 DP 2.0ghz(pci-x, 8GB ram capacity for $1699) for fcp, video/graphics use will last at least a good 2 years?

[Eric Stinemates]

I was planning on buying a G5 this year and now I’m really unsure of what to do. I don’t want to be stuck with an outdated G4 for too long. From what I’ve read, there’s still a lot of vagueness about the transition. I’m worried the old G4s and G5s will lose all their value as the software transitions?

For all the supposed ease in the transition that Jobs touted, the timetable still seems to be 12-24 months. There must be issues he doesn’t want to talk about. Do we have to wait at least a year and maybe two for a powerful video editing desktop machine. Not sure which chips will be used, updated P4s, Itaniums, dual-core, multi-processor?

Jobs said all projects at Apple have been developed with both systems in mind, I assume the Suite is a part of that. Would love to hear something soon from the FCP development team on this transition with these products in mind.