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  • Tero Ahlfors

    January 12, 2018 at 2:44 pm

    [Tony West] “Did apple tell you that?”

    Probably not but I’d guess this how it went down:

    -Somebody programmed the math that works differently between the different standards
    -Somebody tested the functionality
    -Somebody approved it
    -They shipped it

    It’s not a random bug that just happens in certain edge cases as the results are the same for all users.

  • Tero Ahlfors

    January 12, 2018 at 3:14 pm

    They had preview events for the tools. I was wondering if anyone noticed this difference during those.

  • Oliver Peters

    January 12, 2018 at 3:44 pm

    [Tero Ahlfors] “They had preview events for the tools. I was wondering if anyone noticed this difference during those.”

    Maybe they need to expand their pool of beta testers.

    – Oliver

    Oliver Peters – oliverpeters.com

  • Steve Connor

    January 12, 2018 at 3:57 pm

    [Oliver Peters] “Maybe they need to expand their pool of beta testers.

    This much we do know

    \”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka

  • Bill Davis

    January 12, 2018 at 10:09 pm

    [Simon Ubsdell] “Who steals my purse steals trash; ’tis something, nothing;
    ‘Twas mine, ’tis his, and has been slave to thousands;
    But he that filches from me my good name
    Robs me of that which not enriches him,
    And makes me poor indeed.”

    Exactly.

    The public impression of YOU, Simon, – a person making truly useful contributions to the creative arts – should never have their “good name filched” in ANY way.

    And FCP X (and the dedicated team of real people working on it) – should have the same consideration, perhaps.

    All I’m saying.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Neil Goodman

    January 13, 2018 at 1:29 am

    [Bill Davis] “And FCP X (and the dedicated team of real people working on it) – should have the same consideration, perhaps.

    There’s a difference there. Have you never publicly criticized something you bought? Something you use on the daily? You sure as hell criticized Adobe for subscriptions and Avi for being a dinosaur. Dont those companies and the people behind them deserve the same? MHO is absolutely not. You put something out there in the public and you open the floodgates, especially these days.

    People on this or any forum shouldn’t have to tip toe around your personal feelings for Apple.

  • Steve Connor

    January 13, 2018 at 9:06 am

    [Neil Goodman] “People on this or any forum shouldn’t have to tip toe around your personal feelings for Apple.

    Let alone stop making valuable contributions here based on his attempts to shut down any real or even implied criticism of FCPX

    \”Traditional NLEs have timelines. FCPX has storylines\” W.Soyka

  • Bill Davis

    January 13, 2018 at 6:25 pm

    [Neil Goodman] “There’s a difference there. Have you never publicly criticized something you bought? Something you use on the daily? You sure as hell criticized Adobe for subscriptions and Avi for being a dinosaur. Dont those companies and the people behind them deserve the same? MHO is absolutely not. You put something out there in the public and you open the floodgates, especially these days.

    People on this or any forum shouldn’t have to tip toe around your personal feelings for Apple.”

    Sure I’ve criticized things. But it’s not my default mode. For example, I’ve criticized the FCP X approach to key framing. I, (like many others) find it overly “fiddley” and I don’t think it’s entire interface is well designed. I don’t harp on that or make it the ONLY thing I say about X, but I’ve said it and I’m still saying it. There are dozens of other things I’ve had difficulties with in X as well – (Loss of the Project Library, The complex switch to the Library Model. The loss of the ability to work audio “above the line.” ) All annoyances to me.

    But I have CHOSEN not to DEFINE my posts here by the parts of the glass that I see as less than full. Not when I can drink what I need, when I need, in such a personally satisfying fashion.

    In the interim, where am I with THIS problem? Answer: Working away happily. Cranking out X projects day after day that don’t require the thing that needs fixing.

    Look, I GET that if you do color work daily – this is a snafu. But ALL productive X editors didn’t have an internal way to do color beyond the color board before this – so waiting until it’s addressed is simply no MONSTER deal IMO.

    At worst, it delays some of the utility of a brand new feature, while MANY other features are in place, working fine, and very useful for users.

    I still feel that way.

    If you don’t – then you’re free to say THAT here too.

    But that it seems to make you ANGRY – isn’t about the features really, is it? It’s about seeing ALL criticism of your position as a personal attack, rather than professional critique. (And, yep, I’ll cop to that as much as the next guy.) It’s HARD not to see every thing that’s the slightest bit controversial (or even not!) I post here ripped apart by those with an alternative view.

    But that’s where we are in the world now. These are contentious times in public discourse.

    And there’s only two ways to deal with it, IMO. Pull back and let ONE view define the argument from day one. Or voice what I believe, even if it turns out i’m wrong 50% of the time – and let the brickbats fall where they might.

    I’m still OK with that. If YOU aren’t – that’s not my problem, really. But I am sorry it makes you feel so angry, Neil.
    Honestly. It must be tiring to be so upset so much. Or maybe not. Maybe that’s just what you do. I’ve certainly seen others who have the same angsty reaction in lots of situations in life. If you and I are one of those “oil and water” matchups, Ces’t la vie.

    We’ll both do fine regardless, I suspect.

    Take care.

    Creator of XinTwo – https://www.xintwo.com
    The shortest path to FCP X mastery.

  • Neil Goodman

    January 13, 2018 at 10:56 pm

    [Bill Davis] “But I am sorry it makes you feel so angry, Neil.
    Honestly. It must be tiring to be so upset so much. Or maybe not. Maybe that’s just what you do. I’ve certainly seen others who have the same angsty reaction in lots of situations in life. If you and I are one of those “oil and water” matchups, Ces’t la vie. “

    Im not angry Bill, not in the least and I respect your expertise in X – I really do.

    I do however think your tendency to defend X blindly whether you know about the topic at hand or not gets a bit old at times, and to me it seems like your personal attachments to X and Apple in general can cloud your judgement when having debates about X or apple.

    We are all on this forum for the same reason, there’s something we all like about X, but its ok to not like things about it too and publically talk about them w/o it instantly inciting a post from you about how people are attacking X and the rep is tarnished, and it not fair to the devs.

    but like you said Ces’t la vie

  • Robert D’alexis

    January 14, 2018 at 1:48 am

    Bill & Neil
    It’s “C’est la vie”, not “Ces’t la vie”. 🙂

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