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  • monitoring 2k footage via SDI, Premiere CC, Decklink Studio

    Posted by Graham Hutchins on August 13, 2013 at 6:47 pm

    Hello all,

    System specs:

    MacPro 4,1 2.26Ghz 8 core, 32 GB RAM, OSX 10.8.4
    Adobe CC
    Resolve 9.1.5
    FSI LM-2461W
    BM Decklink Studio 2
    BM Desktop Video 9.7.7

    After searching the forums, I’m here seeking the collective wisdom of the Cow.

    I’m working in a 2048×854 timeline and I’d like to be able to monitor the timeline in Premiere on my external monitor with a Decklink Studio via SDI. No flavor of 2K sequence preset seems to work. If I take my 2048×854 timeline and nest it in a 1920×1080 timeline, boom, the image shows up and plays back on my external monitor.

    Both Resolve and After Effects are capable of sending a signal to my monitor that will play back, while still working in 2048×854 timelines and comps.

    Thoughts? Workarounds? Both AE and Resolve work, which makes me think this is a Premiere thing, like it isn’t capable of downsampling to 1080, but I could be wrong.

    Thanks for your time.

    -Graham

    OSX 10.8.4, Windows 7
    Adobe CS6, CC
    FC Studio 3
    DaVinci Resolve 9
    Octo 2.26GB MacPro, 32 GB RAM

    Ericbowen replied 12 years, 9 months ago 3 Members · 8 Replies
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  • Ericbowen

    August 13, 2013 at 7:28 pm

    Premiere will not scale down from the sequence frame size when using an I/O card. It will with the video card. As of right now I don’t know of any work around for this other than using the video card or go into the Blackmagic processing options and have it scale down in processing.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

  • Shane Ross

    August 13, 2013 at 8:01 pm

    The card isn’t 2K capable. It maxes out at 1080.

    https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/651526-REG/Blackmagic_Design_BDLKSTUDIO2_DeckLink_Studio_2_SD_HD.html

    Look at the specs.

    “Supported Video formats: 525i NTSC, 625i PAL, 720HD and 1080HD”

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Graham Hutchins

    August 13, 2013 at 9:47 pm

    Hi Shane,

    Thank you for the response.

    I am fully aware that this card is not capable of 2K output, nor is it capable of down sampling a 4K or 2K signal to 1080p. My studio monitor isn’t 2k capable either. My point is that both Resolve and AE are able to display 2K and 4K timelines and comps so that they are viewable on my 1080 grading monitor using my existing hardware.

    Seems like a pretty basic function. FCP7 is capable of this, are are AE and Resolve. Why not Premiere?

    I guess I’ll submit another feature request. Thanks again.

    EDIT: Well what do you know, looks like the monitor is capable of displaying a 2K signal. Need to upgrade the card or get Adobe to update Premiere.

    -Graham

    OSX 10.8.4, Windows 7
    Adobe CS6, CC
    FC Studio 3
    DaVinci Resolve 9
    Octo 2.26GB MacPro, 32 GB RAM

  • Shane Ross

    August 13, 2013 at 9:52 pm

    Actually, your monitor IS capable of 2K:

    https://www.shopfsi.com/FSI-10bit-24-Inch-HD-Broadcast-Monitor-p/lm-2461w.htm

    (click on Tech Specs)

    I know that the Kona cards can downscale 2K signals…so maybe somewhere in the Blackmagic Control panel they have that option too?

    Shane
    Little Frog Post
    Read my blog, Little Frog in High Def

  • Ericbowen

    August 13, 2013 at 10:18 pm

    If you used Match sequence settings for the Media, try starting another sequence with Custom mode for the editing mode. Then set your editing frame resolution. Leave the Preview resolution set to 1080 and the Iframe codec. See if it will output then. I never got a chance to test that with the 4K card. Another option would be to try and switch the preview codec to Blackmagic and see if it will then.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

  • Graham Hutchins

    August 13, 2013 at 10:24 pm

    Nope, neither one of those works. Good suggestion though.

    -Graham

    OSX 10.8.4, Windows 7
    Adobe CS6, CC
    FC Studio 3
    DaVinci Resolve 9
    Octo 2.26GB MacPro, 32 GB RAM

  • Graham Hutchins

    August 13, 2013 at 10:31 pm

    Yep, caught that right before you posted.

    There’s nothing in the BM control panel that allows for down converting to 1080, at least not with the Decklink Studio 2. As much as I would love to shell out another $1K for a piece of hardware for my aging Mac Pro, I’d much prefer this to work as is, like the other two thirds of my post workflow, AE and Resolve, but it seems like that isn’t possible.

    -Graham

    OSX 10.8.4, Windows 7
    Adobe CS6, CC
    FC Studio 3
    DaVinci Resolve 9
    Octo 2.26GB MacPro, 32 GB RAM

  • Ericbowen

    August 13, 2013 at 10:35 pm

    Well beyond that I am out of ideas. I ran into this with a Film client a while back with the Blackmagic 4K card and a Flanders Monitor. I just had him run an input from the Flanders to the video card since the Monitor would only scale down from 2K. I am surprised myself that Premiere doesn’t use the same preview drawing system that Davinci does since it scales via the GPU based on the playback settings to the I/O card. Definitely a feature request.

    Eric-ADK
    Tech Manager

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