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Activity Forums Apple Final Cut Pro Legacy Media Manager was NOT fixed in 5.02

  • Bill Russell

    July 22, 2005 at 10:32 am

    And all that for a movie edited on FCP2! (…which consolodated without errors, oh so long ago…)

    “THE LOST SKELETON OF CADAVRA”

    And more…

  • Tom Wolsky

    July 22, 2005 at 10:36 am

    Actually I did throw away the media. I captured, not an hour, but 20 minutes of material. I made a number of different projects in which I treated the media differently. I then quit the application and trashed the media from the hard drive. It was no longer accessible. I then ran the media manager tests.

    Unfortunately if you run the create offline function before you trash the media you’ll get the correct result. You’ll get a batch capture that only includes the media you edited. The procedure has to be edit your material, media manage and create your offline and then trash your media. Then you’ll have a project file that will have the limited media. Or if you edited with subclips or logged and captured, then at worst you’ll have to captured the used clips and the unused clips or subclips will not have to be recaptured.

  • Tom Wolsky

    July 22, 2005 at 11:27 am

    Are you using Motion effects on your clips? I noticed on 2-pop someone had a problem with MM not consolidating if clips had motion applied. MM wanted to online all the media for the clips.

  • Bill Russell

    July 22, 2005 at 5:34 pm

    Hi there. I assume you mean Motion (TM) / Motion 2 (TM) with a capital M? Nope, just color correction, straight speed changes (not ramps / remaps), and motion (lowercase) tab stuff (position / scale / crop).

    I guess, from this forum, the new FCP5-MM-delete problem is a baby’s rash — not always there when the doctor looks.

    I’m looking forward to scrutinzing the feature documentary I left FCP5 MM’ing last night. I already know that FCP4.5 can’t do it: Earlier I had a bin of clips with picture drop-outs (digitized originally by the client, but plays clean on our DSR-80) that needed recapturing. A few of those, alas, didn’t capture right. One had a reverse on it in the sequence. Another — I dunno what was up.

    Some people on the forum say they have had flawless experiences with FCP4.5 MM, over and over again. That just astounds me, since I encounter MM problems lurking somewhere on EVERY MM job I meet. Every. Single. One. …whether by us on our systems or by a client trying to put together a job to bring in. Always, always, always.

    Maybe it has something to do with the nature of both the material and genre edit style, since I am mostly involved in documentaries (but my experiences not limited to documentaries). Several friends and clients and many years: documentaries mean complex timelines that change again and again over many many months or even years, projects sizes get enormous. New footage, last-minute footage goes in an out of the project all the time. Terrabytes of storage by the end of it all (the documentary that came in yesterday lives on FOUR firewire external RAIDS — I’ve seen worse, like insane leaning towers of firewire drives, plus firewire drive colonies tucked into every corner and wall crack — needless to say those COMPUTERS don’t work, let alone FCP), and lots of capture now and mixed media sources.

    Every serious documentarian knows what I’m talking about — I see it over and over in edit rooms, dens and bedrooms, it’s funny. It’s taxing on FCP, true, but it should not be FCP’s excuse. FCP is the affordable, flexible, contained solution, it is aimed at just such users. Other systems have delivered in this area.

    Final Cut is perfect for docu’s… the right market niche…. except when it comes to the end of the process, then it breaks down (not just in MM, but in EDL creation and even simple relocating and relinking). It’s a serious fundamental weakness. That’s when I miss Avid or especially D-Vision or Discreet Logic Edit (until Discreet erased it). I once lived in D-Vision land. It was a ROCK, lots of documentary filmmakers had it. It worked in 1995.

    Cheers!

    “THE LOST SKELETON OF CADAVRA”

    And more…

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