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media fx; they seem to multiply in the plugin chain
hi all. i had a strange problem today, and have had it on a couple of recent projects. running vegas pro 11 64 bit, latest build. i’m doing a project with a runtime of about an hour and a half, 6 cameras. i did the multi-camera edit. then i used the media fx feature to apply varying degress of level/colour matching between cameras. i also applied neat video to a couple of cameras to denoise (was a live video shoot in a concert hall). today i’ve been with the client, cutting the show into 1 minute snippets for youtube.
but i’m finding that some of the clips are showing multiple copies of the media fx. example; i’d used media fx/ neat video/levels on a camera. but when watching playback, some frames froze. on opening the clip i found at least 20 copies of both plugins inserted. it’s as if vegas is adding copies of the plugin chain without my orders. a bug? possibly. maybe user error but it doesn’t happen on every camera… i had to go into the clip and remove all these extra copies to work. found the quickest way was to select a different take then reselect original take (losing my fx settings in the process). has anyone else experienced this weird problem? thanks, edStealth Recording Studio, Glasgow, Scotland UK
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No Eddie, never heard of that occurring before.
Have you at any other time seen this behavior?Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
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The only times I’ve had that happen to me is when I’ve done a copy/paste event attributes but it doesn’t sound like that’s what Eddie did.
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thnaks for replies guys. i have seen it a couple of times in other long projects with multiple cameras. i think it is somehow related to saving/reloading projects. definitely not connected to pasting attributes though, because i only use that when creating titles for separate sections. usually i can spot when the problem is happening and go in and remove the doubled instances manually. yesterday, working at speed with 2 clients behind my back, it crept up on me incrementally until bam! a clip with so many instances of neat video that the program froze. will investigate when i get a chance. might have to contact sony about this one.
maybe you could try to replicate.
try this
make a new project with 2 or 3 cameras.do a quick multicamera edit
go to each camera and use media fx to apply levels plugin
save project as test master
open test master, then identify a section and trim it.
save the trimmed section as master test clip 1
close project
open test master, then identify a section and trim it.
save the trimmed section as master test clip 2
close project
reopen either project and check to see if media fx are correct or if they have doubled.
Stealth Recording Studio, Glasgow, Scotland UK
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It is happening to me exactly as you described it.
Re-start Vegas, play clips on the timeline and everything works fine. Then make some edits or move some clips or stop and start too fast by pressing “L” to play and Vegas stops working. The one thing I have noticed is that the Detail Report always shows the same fault location.
It is upon reopening the file that I find duplicate “Media effects” applied at the media level. I t may be related to the crash.
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I was going to suggest reporting the issue to NeatVideo as it could be an OFX implementation issue, but I see it is happening to the standard FX as well.
For me, something changed since v10c where unexpected results with FX crept in with multicam edits. I have a 3rd party colour matching plugin that badly misbehaves in any version of SVP above 10c. I reported it to the developer who blamed Sony for changing the OFX specifications.
For this reason I am still on 10c. I did want to move to SVP11 with the promise of GPU acceleration, and even forked out $$ for a GT570. That amounted to nought as you have to disable it to get any measure of stability during rendering. Kinda defeats the purpose.
In short, you might need to report this OFX issue to Sony.
My system specs: Intel i7 970, 12GB RAM, ASUS P6T, Vegas Pro 10e (x32/x64), Windows 7 x64 Ultimate, Vegas Production Assistant 1.0, VASST Ultimate S Pro 4.1, Neat Video Pro 2.6
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hi lads. yes, i posted a tech support request to sony last night. in a few clips i ended up with almost 100 instances of levels and neat video. had to go through and remove alll but the required ones, then save as a plugin chain and apply that whenever the problem occurred. this cost me a day of editing, going back through the whole project and re-rendering! ed
p.s. if you can get cuda working, it makes a huge difference. i have found rendering with neat video to be between 10-20 times faster. using an intel i-7 2600k i was getting 1 frame every 2 seconds. now i get between 10-20 frames per second. i bought an evga gtx460 sc. quiet, cheap and a big speed boost for me. also makes the realtime preview very smooth and high quality.Stealth Recording Studio, Glasgow, Scotland UK
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Yes Eddie, Neat Video has become a lot faster and better,
especially since version 3.1Steve Rhoden
(Cow Leader)
Film Editor & Compositor.
Filmex Creative Media.
1-876-832-4956
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