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Making the switch to Premier from FCP.
I had this placed in the Adobe Premier Beginner forum, but didn’t get much response so I’m going to try the Big Boys forum.
I’m looking at advising my company to switch from Apple FCP 6 to Adobe Premier.
I want to get a couple of things straight in my head before I propose it.
I know Premier can work with a wide range of formats and codec’s but is the a standard or native format that works best.
IE: FCP works best with Apple Pro Res.
We currently shoot everything in Apple Pro Res and want to figure out if we are going to needs to change our shoot process.I personally have not used Premier in a looong time so I’m sure thing have changed a lot.
From what I can see poking around in the CS 5.5 version we have there is a way to capture footage built into Premier which is great for the rare occasions we still get tapes, most of our stuff is shoot Apple Pro Res directly to our SAN or it is shot Sony XD car or Pan P2.
Is there a log and transfer feature or do you use the tools that Sony and Panasonic have.I also do see a way yo output to tape, how is that accomplished?
My final question (for now) is about closed captioning and that may be better suited for MacCaption to answer, but in FCP we can create a file and have FCP 7 lay the metadata to tape for HD Captioning.
Yes I said we use FCP6, but for tape output we have 2 copies of FCP7 to handle the captioning.Thanks for the help and guidance.
Steve.
Steve.
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Steve –
Welcome to what will be an enlightening, and sometimes frustrating transition. Here’s what some of the “big boys” are saying about the transition:
https://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2011/06/23/workflow-adobe-premiere-intro-and-fcp-7-roundtrip/
Here’s one of a good series of videos on the Adobe Channel to get you started:
https://tv.adobe.com/watch/learn-premiere-pro-cs6/transitioning-to-premiere-pro-cs6/
If you can’t do it in PPro (yet), you’ll find that you can round-trip back to FCP7 if need be – this is on Lynda.com, so you’ll have to pay admission – but it’s well worth the price:
https://www.lynda.com/Final-Cut-Studio-3-tutorials/final-cut-studio-round-tripping/62222-2.html
Joe Bourke
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[Steven Cohen] “I know Premier can work with a wide range of formats and codec’s but is the a standard or native format that works best.”
Premiere has no standard codec. Avid has DNxHD, Apple has ProRes…Adobe doesn’t have one. It does render to MPEG-2…but that’s different. Premiere will work with ProRes just fine. Rather well, actually.
[Steven Cohen] “From what I can see poking around in the CS 5.5 version”
CS5.5 will frustrate the heck out of you. CS6.5 is better, but not quite there. CS7 will be the one you want to get…the most FCP like. I tried CS5.5 for a few days, and dropped it immediately. Don’t judge Premiere on CS5.5…it’s gotten LOADS better.
[Steven Cohen] “Is there a log and transfer feature or do you use the tools that Sony and Panasonic have.”
PRELUDE does this. But you don’t even need to use it as Premiere works with those format natively, without any transcoding. Just copy the card files to your media drive, use the Media Browser to import the footage….done. But if you want to convert…and I’m with you on that…you use PRELUDE.
[Steven Cohen] “I also do see a way yo output to tape, how is that accomplished?”
Currently it’s not quite stable. Best to either export a ProRes file and use FCP…or use the output app of the capture card you have.
Shane
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“[Steven Cohen] “I know Premier can work with a wide range of formats and codec’s but is the a standard or native format that works best.”
[Shane Ross]Premiere has no standard codec. Avid has DNxHD, Apple has ProRes…Adobe doesn’t have one. It does render to MPEG-2…but that’s different. Premiere will work with ProRes just fine. Rather well, actually.”
In Premiere Pro, we just use DNxHD or ProRes as the intermediate codec. With Premiere Pro Next, the integration is even tighter with these codecs. You can ingest with either of these codecs in Prelude, if you like. Export times are now much faster, as well.
“[Steven Cohen] “From what I can see poking around in the CS 5.5 version”
[Shane Ross] CS5.5 will frustrate the heck out of you. CS6.5 is better, but not quite there. CS7 will be the one you want to get…the most FCP like. I tried CS5.5 for a few days, and dropped it immediately. Don’t judge Premiere on CS5.5…it’s gotten LOADS better.”
Premiere Pro CS6 is probably best for FCP to Premiere Pro switchers. Premiere Pro Next will be even easier to migrate to. The UI is very intuitive. BTW, there is no “Premiere Pro CS 6.5,” at least that I know about. 😉
“[Steven Cohen] “I also do see a way yo output to tape, how is that accomplished?”
[Shane Ross] Currently it’s not quite stable. Best to either export a ProRes file and use FCP…or use the output app of the capture card you have.”
A new Tape Export dialog box is available in Premiere Pro Next.
[Steven Cohen] “My final question (for now) is about closed captioning and that may be better suited for MacCaption to answer, but in FCP we can create a file and have FCP 7 lay the metadata to tape for HD Captioning.
Yes I said we use FCP6, but for tape output we have 2 copies of FCP7 to handle the captioning.”Premiere Pro Next fully supports import and export of closed captioning files. You can also create your own CC files, add them to the Timeline, and trim the results to match picture.
Kevin Monahan
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[Kevin Monahan] “BTW, there is no “Premiere Pro CS 6.5,” at least that I know about. ;-)”
HA! Sorry, too many NLE’s and too many numbers. Avid is at MC6.5…thus the confusion.
CS7 answers most of our requests and concerns, that’s for DARN sure.
Shane
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[Shane Ross] “CS7 answers most of our requests and concerns, that’s for DARN sure.”
Naming conventions strike again. Im pretty sure the correct name at this point is CS Next. 😛 😀
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[Shane Ross] “HA! Sorry, too many NLE’s and too many numbers. Avid is at MC6.5…thus the confusion.”
No worries, I just didn’t want anyone think that we’ve released anything new.
[Shane Ross] “CS7 answers most of our requests and concerns, that’s for DARN sure.”
Judging the reaction at NAB, it’s going to be a very exciting release. BTW, I don’t think I saw you at NAB this year. Did you attend?
Kevin Monahan
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I didn’t make it this year. Too many family obligations to deal with.
Shane
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[Tom Daigon] “Naming conventions strike again. Im pretty sure the correct name at this point is CS Next. 😛 :D”
Premiere Pro Next, not CS Next. That’s what we called it at NAB, anyway. Not to be nitpicking, or anything. 🙂
Kevin Monahan
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[Shane Ross] “I didn’t make it this year. Too many family obligations to deal with.”
Awesome. Hope you are enjoying your time with the family. I saw your video of the new home you’re getting. Touching. Congrats, my friend. Hope to see you next time I’m in LA.
Kevin Monahan
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LOL! Even I cant keep up with the correct nomenclature.
Tom Daigon
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