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MacBreak Studio discussion on Avid and FCPX
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[David Roth Weiss] “Credit The Cow Tony”
The cow is awesome, but I found you looking for info on X
and then I stayed : )
[David Roth Weiss] “$2000”
Wow!
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[Steve Connor] “Having spent 5 years as a linear online editor, I’m with you on that one.”
Just think back to the good old days Steve, when you brought in $450 an hour for your bosses for even the most simple online edit sessions.
Of course that probably didn’t even begin to pay their overhead.
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Los Angeles
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Dang, that’s a lot of money.
I’m trying to remember what a comparable Avid cost when i was looking to buy fcp 6.
I seem to remember fcp being a lot cheaper but I can’t remember how much.
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[tony west] “Dang, that’s a lot of money.
I’m trying to remember what a comparable Avid cost when i was looking to buy fcp 6.
I seem to remember fcp being a lot cheaper but I can’t remember how much”
Software only, it was about twice the price of FCS. Of course, if you were a student you could have gotten ver 3.1 for 3-500 bucks, or there abouts. So–half as much, or twice as much. Take your choice.
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[Chris Harlan] “Software only, it was about twice the price of FCS”
That’s kind of what I was talking about earlier Chris when I said it was a game changer.
It’s not just me saying that, Steve Martin in that clip at about 7 min in is talking about how with fc all you needed was the computer and software. You didn’t need all that hardware.
I already had the computer. It was hands down for me.A lot of people got on the train at the point.
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[tony west] “There were other NLE’s out there but I don’t remember them being “free”
When apple tossed in Imovie for “free” I think that put pressure on Avid. It was just a consumer product but you could cut a wedding or something simple on it. “
I don’t think I would agree that Avid ever felt any kind of pressure from iMovie. As to consumer stuff:
Free is relative. To get iMovie, you had to buy a Mac. There were free movie editors in Windows, but not as good. But, you could buy a generic PC for a lot less, spend 50-150 bucks on something like Pinnacle software, and be in about the same spot for a lot less.
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[tony west] “[Chris Harlan] “Software only, it was about twice the price of FCS”
That’s kind of what I was talking about earlier Chris when I said it was a game changer.
It’s not just me saying that, Steve Martin in that clip at about 7 min in is talking about how with fc all you needed was the computer and software. You didn’t need all that hardware.
I already had the computer. It was hands down for me.A lot of people got on the train at the point.”
That’s okay, Tony. You and I and Steve Martin will just have to disagree.
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[David Roth Weiss] “Just to give you a little perspective, a 1-gigabyte hard drive was $2000 when I first began using NLEs”
I remember buying a 16MB SIMM for my Amiga which was $1000. Nobody could even DREAM of a gigabyte of RAM. Unfathomable. Can you imagine!?
Chris
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[Chris Harlan] “Free is relative. To get iMovie, you had to buy a Mac.”
I know, and people WERE starting to buy macs. The start of what you see today.
They weren’t buying it to get Imovie.
They already were getting a Mac and “oh. look at here……a free cutting tool tossed in”
A hardware company like Apple can afford to give away software for free or very cheap.
When the guy in the video talked about the Avid student price being 300 bucks. They didn’t pull that price out of a hat. They don’t want to give their crap away for that price any more than I’m a man in the moon.
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[tony west] “[Chris Harlan] “Free is relative. To get iMovie, you had to buy a Mac.”
I know, and people WERE starting to buy macs. The start of what you see today.
They weren’t buying it to get Imovie.
They already were getting a Mac and “oh. look at here……a free cutting tool tossed in”
A hardware company like Apple can afford to give away software for free or very cheap.
When the guy in the video talked about the Avid student price being 300 bucks. They didn’t pull that price out of a hat. They don’t want to give their crap away for that price any more than I’m a man in the moon.
“You know, Tony, I’m not really following your logic, so I’m not quite sure how to respond. I’m not sure what you mean by “what’s happening today.” Mac Sales? I get that iMovie was a give away, and that people started playing with it. People have been interested in playing with video for a long time. Avid student price has been where it is for a long time–years before FCP X pricing, if that’s what your point is.
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