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macbook air and fcpx- the new portable edit suite
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[Gary Huff] “Well, you are either not explaining it well enough, I simply need to use the program, or you are so intent on seeing FCPX become the standard that you are convinced already without the slightest shred of evidence.”
I would like to use it. Yes. This is an FCPX forum right? As far as evidence, I mentioned an example of the fast and meaningful sorting in my article.
[Gary Huff] “Apple has a track record that tells me that nothing is a given with what will happen with future revisions of FCPX all the way up to FCPX2 (if that comes out”
Hmm. In my view, Apple’s record with X updates is spot on. They provided bug fixes and features in just 3 months and announced more features for the near future. That never happened with Studio. Roles weren’t announced, but there they were. Only Apple dignitaries know what unannounced features lay ahead.
[Gary Huff] “Right now, I’d say the two have equal weight as well. We have no idea as to the extent that CS6 will be like, but I would argue that we have a far better idea of that then we do of FCPX.”
Equal weight, fair enough I guess. What do we know about CS6 exactly?
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Guys, can we not ruin another perfectly good discourse? Please?
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[Jeremy Garchow]Equal weight, fair enough I guess. What do we know about CS6 exactly?
It will be awesome.
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“What do we know about CS6 exactly?”
That it will be backwards compatible with CS5.
I had to jump in, the setup was too good.
Herb Sevush
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[Herb Sevush] “Because I don’t know what the audio is to be defined as till I actually make the edit, does this do away with the “mass browser approach” ? “
You start simply and adjust.
You wouldn’t know VO is VO? As I mentioned, you can edit the role at anytime in three places, very easily. No moving to another track, or making new tracks and moving, or perhaps rearranging your whole audio track array to make room forba 2 second clip.
[Herb Sevush] “Then if I wanted to change something from dialogue to EFX I would have to re-define it’s role ?”
Yep. As for time drain, see above.
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[Herb Sevush] “I had to jump in, the setup was too good.”
Yep, you’re right about that. Another good one.
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[Jeremy Garchow]You wouldn’t know VO is VO? As I mentioned, you can edit the role at anytime in three places, very easily. No moving to another track, or making new tracks and moving, or perhaps rearranging your whole audio track array to make room for a 2 second clip.
Jeremy, this is part of the reason I don’t believe you really know how much “faster” FCPX is in this regard. Moving audio to an entirely new track is just as fast (if not slightly faster) than re-assigning a role.
Do you know how to create a new audio track? Click and hold on the clip you want to move to the new track, pull down to below the last track, and release. 1-2 seconds max. How much faster do you think this can get?
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“You wouldn’t know VO is VO?”
I have 2 chefs talking about the proper cooking temperature for scrambled eggs as they crack the egss and then start frying them in a pan. In my first pass it’s sync dialogue. In my next pass I use the sync of them talking as VO behind the sound of the eggs frying in the pan. Now it’s VO and the actual frying sound, which had been sync at one point, is now EFX as I use it over a later shot of the eggs frying. A clip started as sync dialogue, then became part vo, part EFX. How often do I do this? All the time, maybe 30 – 40% of the show ends up like this depending on how much I have to compress time. The problem with roles is I never know which part will remain sync dialogue and which will end up as VO plus EFX. Which is easier, constantly changing roles after I move the clips, or just moving the clips?
Herb Sevush
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[Gary Huff] “Jeremy, this is part of the reason I don’t believe you really know how much “faster” FCPX is in this regard. Moving audio to an entirely new track is just as fast (if not slightly faster) than re-assigning a role.
Do you know how to create a new audio track? Click and hold on the clip you want to move to the new track, pull down to below the last track, and release. 1-2 seconds max. How much faster do you think this can get?”
You are assuming there is room for this. What if the tracks above and below are not effects tracks or aren’t empty? Then you have an effect dangling that screws up your whole export, right? I guess I am assuming greater than a simple stereo export.
You can not believe me, that’s fine. I am not saying all this because I am trying to trick you, or convince you, or tell you what’s best for you. I am simply reporting my findings after having using both devices. I guess you can only take me at my word, on a forum it’s really all I have. In FCPX the audio stack order simply doesn’t matter, you can put it anywhere. I find this method, in the whole of the edit, much faster from input, organization, edit, to output. I spend less time managing, more time with the edit and eventually I hope more power will come with more control.
When going back to FCP7 from FCPX, everything is way more slow, more mechanical, and more importantly, less creative. That is important to me, maybe it isn’t to other people.
Sorry if I’m not explaining it well enough, perhaps I should never go in to sales.
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[Jeremy Garchow] “Chris-
The control key solved that. And to be fair, their latest “two button” mouse still only has one “button”.
“Now, come on. The ctrl key makes you use two hands where only one is necessary.
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