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  • Mac pros and final cut

    Posted by Supervideo on August 27, 2006 at 5:27 am

    I was just wondering how much do the programs in FCP studio take advantage
    of multi processors . Is FCP , dvd studio , motion ect…(Multithreaded Apps )
    I am trying to see where the biggest gain will come from .Weather it will be
    from just a fast processor .Or multi processors , Fast harddrive through put..
    Good GPU card …But mostly whats my biggest gain in say using a mac pro ?
    Also if they are 64 bit apps or do you think the next release will be 64bit
    because of the talk about lepard being full 64 bit …which would make the Mac pro even more intresting ?
    thanks ! for any input

    Ben Holmes replied 19 years, 8 months ago 8 Members · 17 Replies
  • 17 Replies
  • David Roth weiss

    August 27, 2006 at 7:17 am

    FCP will certainly be optimized for 64bit after Leopard is released. Until then, they are about equal in speed to the quad G5s.

  • Supervideo

    August 27, 2006 at 10:12 am

    does Final cut take advantage of the 4 processors now in the 5.1 release

  • Ben Holmes

    August 27, 2006 at 10:29 am

    The table at the top of this page suggests NOT:

    https://www.anandtech.com/mac/showdoc.aspx?i=2816&p=16

    Anandtech took one of the Dual Core Xeon processors out of a Quad Xeon, and got exactly the same render time in FCP for this particular test – that’s the first two lines of the top table. Who knows if it applies to ALL FCP renders?

    There has been considerable speculation (mostly based on Apple’s own benchmarks on 5.2.1 and what certain people have been told) that the next release may see some speed increases on a quad architecture. Personally, I find selling a machine based on beta software that only the hardware manufacturer has access to a little shady.

    What’s certain is that over time, and the release of Leopard in Jan, we WILL see FCP harness as much of that sweet sweet quad core goodness as it can – eventually. Plus it’s going to be a performance gain on INTEL machines ONLY from now on in all likelihood. Still not interested in a Quad Xeon yet myself, I’m waiting for a real-world gain.

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
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  • Walter Biscardi

    August 27, 2006 at 11:45 am

    [Ben Holmes] “Anandtech took one of the Dual Core Xeon processors out of a Quad Xeon, and got exactly the same render time in FCP for this particular test – that’s the first two lines of the top table. Who knows if it applies to ALL FCP renders?”

    And I’m sure this was with FCP 5.1 and not FCP 5.1.2 (or 5.2.1) which is what Apple is using as their speed test. Must be coming soon because it’s extremely rare for Apple to use a Beta anything in public.

    Definitely looks like some speed gains with the Intel boxes and this new update. Whether it will take full advantage of the four processors or not, can’t really tell, but it definitely does open up some more speed.

    Walter Biscardi, Jr.
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  • Ben Holmes

    August 27, 2006 at 12:18 pm

    [walter biscardi] “And I’m sure this was with FCP 5.1 and not FCP 5.1.2 (or 5.2.1) which is what Apple is using as their speed test. Must be coming soon because it’s extremely rare for Apple to use a Beta anything in public”

    Yes, it was in reponse to a question about 5.1 – that’s the latest version they had to hand and it’s clearly stated as such in the article.

    It seems to me that Apple are very much in the habit of using beta releases to test performance of late – mostly before now it was because they wanted to benchmark unreleased universal versions of their apps, as they did with the release of the MBP. Every single Intel Mac release has contained benchmarks from betas – and with the non-universal software, I can at least see some logic to it. Now it seems they are doing it just to ‘massage’ the figures. I’m not saying I don’t believe them, I just don’t like the principal. It’s not provable, and that breeds distrust.

    Let the flaming commence…

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
    EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.

    “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com

    See you at IBC – we’re there with our FCP/replay truck…

  • Steve Connor

    August 27, 2006 at 12:56 pm

    Ben,

    I strongly suspect you’ll see FCP 5.2 when you’re at IBC!

  • Ben Holmes

    August 27, 2006 at 1:09 pm

    You’re probably right – be a slip-up for Apple not to have it ready for then. When I have the chance to grill an Apple rep about it, I’ll report back. I expect we’ll see some speedup with 5.x.x (next release) then more on FCP6 running 64-bit on Leopard.

    Ben

    Editec Broadcast Editing Ltd
    EVS & FCP specialists for live OB operations.

    “The Supercar Run” now available for international distribution from http://www.electricsky.com

    See you at IBC – we’re there with our FCP/replay truck…

  • Steve Connor

    August 27, 2006 at 1:25 pm

    I suspect it’s all geared up to NAB and Leopard. I would also hope FCP6 is the biggest upgrade to FCP yet. 5.2 should be a good upgrade though

  • Jeremy Garchow

    August 28, 2006 at 2:41 am

    [Ben Holmes] “Now it seems they are doing it just to ‘massage’ the figures. I’m not saying I don’t believe them, I just don’t like the principal. It’s not provable, and that breeds distrust.”

    Well, have fun with Microsoft. Sure can trust those guys to get awesome, free and timely updates out to the public.

    Haven’t you ever watched a commercial? Do you think drinking Sprite really makes you play better basketball? Come on, Ben. You work in and around this industry, maybe it’s time you stop drinking the kool aid. Apple has a marketing team too. FCP 5.1 is already universal, can’t say the same for a lot of other products. let Apple take their time and get it right. It is in their best interest to release an update, it is NOT in their best interest to rush it out and have it not work properly. Besides, when I upgrade my Dual 2 G5 to a 3 gig quad, I’m sure I’ll notice the speed bump.

    Jeremy

  • Supervideo

    August 28, 2006 at 3:31 am

    All these above comments Pro and con still make me wonder ….to what advantage is a mac pro now ?

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