Logic Pro X instead of FCP X for post audio – need advice.

[Tangier Clarke]

I had them silent – deactivated in the inspector. However they do have dialogue content in the channels so they’re not silent in that regard.

Tangier

[Oliver Peters]

[Tangier Clarke] “Downside to this method is if I need to use filters that don’t allow key framing of their effect then the filter is only good as a blanket affect unless I make further edits on the audio……
……I even had to resurrect Soundtrack Pro to remove ambient noise (from an AC system( being that I don’t know if Logic has something like that – the set noise print feature.”

Unfortunately, these are reasons why the audio-related situation is better in the Avid and Adobe universe. However, you could use a hybrid method. That would be to apply clip-based filters in FCP X and “bake” them in, before applying final track-based effects in LPX.

[Tangier Clarke] “By the way Oliver – I use this audio only plugin for crossfades on the same “track””

Thanks. Yes, I’m aware of it, but I tend to look at these solutions as a workaround for something that Apple should fix.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Oliver Peters]

[Tangier Clarke] “I even had to resurrect Soundtrack Pro to remove ambient noise (from an AC system( being that I don’t know if Logic has something like that – the set noise print feature.”

Additional thought – Have you tried doing some of this work in the standalone version of RX3 rather than just use the plug-in form?

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[Tangier Clarke]

That’s exactly what I did – do some minimal work in FCP X, exported the roles, brought them back in and used iZotope on those. This seemed to work a little better. Figured this out having learned the hard way, but such is the way of learning new things I suppose.

Agreed on the workaround. It should be something Apple has already done and it’s amazing that simple feature isn’t there.

I haven’t tried using the standalone of RX3.

Tangier

[Oliver Peters]

[Tangier Clarke] “I haven’t tried using the standalone of RX3.”

When you use the RX3 or RX4 plug-ins within a host application, they are real-time filters. When you use the standalone RX3 or RX4 application, it processes (renders) the applied filter in an offline fashion. Therefore it “bakes” the result in. This is like processing an individual file in Soundtrack Pro or in Audition.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com

[James Ewart]

Great thread I have book marked it

[Tangier Clarke]

You know folks, the more I play around in Logic Pro X and get familiar with the tools and built-in features I find myself appreciating even more the tools that are available directly in FCP X. I am not saying one is better than the other necessarily and I do recognize how it’s faster to tackle audio in LPX with a wider variety of options. However I am able to see more clearly just how capable FCP X is at delivering quality audio with it’s built in tools; within reason of course.

I wouldn’t go tackling large amounts of audio tracks in FCP X, but for simple D,M,&E with a few subjects it seems pretty good. Granted I am speaking from the perspective of someone who doesn’t do audio as their primary bread and butter skill set so allow me that leeway for the time being.

Either way, I am enjoying learning LPX. I particularly look for ProTools users’ perspectives as well when I search different forums. I am also doing some objective comparison of features and output quality between FCP X, ProTools 11, and LPX since I have access to all of them. https://sound-editing.softwareinsider.com has provided some cursory feature comparisons (some of which I found incorrect), but hearing from you all, experimenting, reading LPX and ProTools users’ experiences with LPX leads me to believe it’s more than capable for post sound (not necessarily ideal, but capable – all subjective), but also not always necessary when all you need is some decent EQ, compressor(s), room noise removal, DeEssers and DeCracklers, and levels adjustments.

Tangier

[Helge Tjelta]

I do use Nuendo, and X2Pro for the AAF. It works, nice to do.

Also, Nuendo 7 now has re-conform, so changes in the video is no problem. (Only drawback is the re-conform only do EDL’s, but having Resolve as a EDL creator is a breeze.)

[Tangier Clarke]

I keep running into issues with the FCPXXML and Logic Pro X. LPX ends up crashing or not playing sound for certain tracks (roles). I haven’t had that issue with X2Pro yet. I also haven’t tried the latest update to LPX yesterday (10.2), but I don’t think XML fixes were a part of that.

Tangier

[Oliver Peters]

[Tangier Clarke] “I keep running into issues with the FCPXXML and Logic Pro X”

I’ve had varying degrees of success. Generally an AAF via X2Pro works better. Right now I’m wrestling with a set of videos edited in Premiere Pro. AAF and XML straight out of PPro seem to work best, but a lot of info is lost. I tried looping through FCPX to try to retain that. Even though it was perfect in X, the exported FCPXML was useless in LPX. And this is with the newest version. Where I’ve had success, the bulk of the audio was from embedded camera media. This current project uses double-system sound in multicam clips and that might be the root of the problem.

More often than not, I resort to just pre-mixing several pieces of audio in X and assign different roles. Then export a multichannel QT with levels and transitions baked in.

– Oliver

Oliver Peters Post Production Services, LLC
Orlando, FL
http://www.oliverpeters.com