Log and Transfer in FCPX

[Mike Jeffs]

I feel like our facility and others like it (Which I think are more of then people think) is apples target market. As acquisition goes we are 100% tapeless. That doesn’t mean that we don’t have old tape archive, but everything new we generate is tapeless. You are hard press to find any NEW camera out there that shoots tape. I think apple see this and understands that their product needs to evolve and change with the times, to fit our needs. For any of our old tape stock we have a separate app for ingesting. To me I have no need for tying up an editor just to ingest some footage it’s a waste of a resource. The losing of log and capture may impact one man shops because they don’t have other resources and all they have is a tape deck and final cut, but again I seriously doubt that those people have 1000s of hours of tape archive like we do. I have estimated we have 300 Terabytes of SD DVCpro Tape in our archive.
Another thought going along with the changing times. I don’t hear anyone rioting that our new macs or pc don’t have 5.25” or 3.5” floopy drives in them. Technology changes and workflows need to change. We can’t just sit on our larrels and do things the same old way if so you’ll be surpassed but other upstarts hungry for your clients.
As for Kenyon if I’m reading your post right you are editing down 7 hours of super cross footage after you have captured it. To me that seems terrible inefficient, get something that will allow you to capture and edit simultaneously then there is no waiting for capture to complete before edit begins. The app or hardware will pay for itself from saving all that time wasted on waiting for capture.

My ramblings

Mike Jeffs
Video Coordinator
BYU-Idaho

[Craig Seeman]

[Mike Jeffs] “get something that will allow you to capture and edit simultaneously then there is no waiting for capture to complete before edit begins.”

Yes, Telestream Pipeline allows that now with FCP. It wraps the video coming in, in an open ended Quicktime container so you can edit the material while it’s coming in. I suspect with Thunderbolt that more devices like this will come on to the market.

I think the “faster horse” analogy is true. That Kenyon equates “extra steps” to “time” may be an example. So many people simply can not fathom the new workflows possible. I see a lot of very limited thinking going on resulting in demands for old workflows improved rather than newer faster ways of handling things even including tape ingest and export.

Personally I think third parties are going to create innovation with tape handling that Apple simply can not do with a built in Log and Capture because anything Apple does can’t possibly specific to new I/O devices that will come to market.

Editing tape while it’s still ingesting is one. Exporting without tying up the NLE may well be another.

[David Burch]

What about us Kona users?

[David Burch]

Honestly, I can live without Log and Capture, so long as there are good 3rd party alternatives (that won’t cost me an arm and a leg). What I am more interested in is outputting to tape, a la the current “print to video” or “edit to tape” features. Without that, it really would be a deal-breaker. That, and if they get rid of multiclip editing.

[Andy Mees]

AJA already offers VTR Xchange as a standalone capture app for Kona users … hard to believe that they would not take that as a working base and rise to the challenge of filling any future need.