Livetype on HD timeline

[David Roth weiss]

Greg,

Cut and paste your video to a 8-bit uncompressed SD timeline, resize and position the video properly in it’s final position, then do your titles. Otherwise, I can assure you will wind up doing all the titles twice. There’s nothing like working with the final product right in front of you.

David

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[Dan Riley]

um. excuse me, but you certainly don’t need to create a new timeline for
output to SD. Do you use a KONA 3 card? You simply have the secondary
output be centercut SD out SDI to your digibeta which is exactly what we do.
I cut the DVCPRO HD 720p 23.98 sequence, using an HD monitor while editing,
with the monitor set to show me safe title for SD or I just watch the show on the
Sony monitor right next to the HD monitor.

All you need to do with livetype is make sure the stuff ends up in safe title.

Dan

[David Roth weiss]

Dan,

Sure, there are lot’s of ways to skin a cat. And maybe Greg has a Kona card, though he didn’t mention it.

But you know, your “um excuse me” crap is really uncalled for and simply very disrespectful. It’s Friday night fella, so mellow out dude.

David

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[Greg Ball]

Thanks. I actually have a LHe card. But I’m leaning toward what you’re suggesting David. Basically I’m editing it on my home system and then moving it to another system at a client facility to output the Digibeta. Both systems are identical.

With that in mind, if I’m using the same external drive, do I only need to move the project file onto that external drive and plug it into the the client’s system to output my sequence? Any catches? Thanks.

[Chris Poisson]

I COMPLETELY agree with David. Dan, that was very rude. Plus assuming the poor guy has a $2500 card is a really arrogant presumption, as though you were saying, “What stupid, you don’t have a Kona card?” You owe him an apology.

Have a wonderful day.

[Chris Poisson]

I meant to add, I also agree with David’s workflow recommendation, even though I DO own a Kona card, because I can zoom, pan and tilt with 1080 material in and SD timeline, and work on the same projects at work where I DON’T have a Kona card.

Have a wonderful day.

[Dan Riley]

Well I guess I pissed everyone off. Didn’t mean too. Sorry, I apologize.

In my experience you don’t need to make a separate sequence when
outputting to DigiBeta from a DVCPROHD 23.98 sequence when
using a Kona3 Card. That was what I should have said, without the
commentary I guess.

Dan

[David Roth weiss]

[Dan Riley] “Sorry, I apologize.”

No problem Dan!!! I’m really glad you did that, it’s so, so rare these days.

BTW, as I said before, there are many ways to skin a cat, and you’re right it’s not necessary to move to an SD timeline. But, given the complexity of Greg’s titling scheme and the flexibility in terms of resizing and repositioning HD video on the SD timeline, I think it’s a good choice.

In any case, let’s get back to saving the world now.

THNX for responding…

David

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[Dan Riley]

While we’re on the Livetype subject, have you noticed since FCP 6.0.2,
if you have a title with a background (like type setting on a color bar or something)
you must render the title before importing to FCP? Previously all you had to do
was import the livetype file. If you don’t render, the livetype background doesn’t
key correctly, like the alpha isn’t being seen by FCP.

Dan

[David Roth weiss]

[Dan Riley] “If you don’t render, the livetype background doesn’t
key correctly, like the alpha isn’t being seen by FCP.”

Feature set or bug? I suspect the later. In fact, I’d go way out on a limb and say definitely a bug. Seems like updates are almost always two steps forward, one step back at almost every turn.

David Roth Weiss
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