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  • Lighting A Storefront

    Posted by Steve Wiggins on August 28, 2010 at 3:26 pm

    We are planning to shoot a scene on a city sidewalk in front of an Ice Cream Shoppe (see photo). The windows are way too reflective. How would one block/mitigate the reflection with a limited (read: almost non-existent) grip budget?

    Michael Easparam replied 15 years, 8 months ago 8 Members · 13 Replies
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  • John Sharaf

    August 28, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    First off, put the key lights on the roof, approximating the effect of the source being the spill from the store interior and/or from street lights.

    Fill lighting from the floor (street) must be played like a pool shot; use a black flag (or improvised gobo) to block the reflection to the camera angle.

    None of this really costs anything, so it would pretty simple to implement considering the limitations you recite.

    JS

  • Ralph Chaney

    August 28, 2010 at 5:07 pm

    Possibilities…

    Shoot when the store is in direct sunlight and the street and/or opposite storefronts are in shade.
    Reduce the reflectivity of the glass.
    Make the interior of the store brighter than the reflections, essentially removing them.
    Shoot at night.
    Change what you think your storyline or shot requirements are.

    -RC

  • Steve Wiggins

    August 28, 2010 at 5:16 pm

    I’m probably going to run with your last suggestion, but before I do that I want to look at some alternatives. Have you ever used a dulling spray on big plate glass windows? I was thinking about that, but I don’t want it to look unnatural. Thanks for your thoughts.

  • Steve Wiggins

    August 28, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    I was thinking about a flag, but it would have to be huge. I’d need some riggers and don’t have a budget for the additional manpower. May have to go to the Client and squeeze some more money.

  • Todd Terry

    August 28, 2010 at 5:45 pm

    The above suggestions….

    PLUS… use of a polarizing filter might help battle the reflections to some degree (either a screw-on rotating pol filter… or one you can put in your matte box, if it has a rotating stage).

    T2

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    Todd Terry
    Creative Director
    Fantastic Plastic Entertainment, Inc.
    fantasticplastic.com

  • Ralph Chaney

    August 28, 2010 at 6:40 pm

    I’ve not “dulled” a large surface. Evenness is the challenge. For evenness a super mild film of some kind… or even that “black mist” cloth might work. Not experienced with either, sorry.

    -> Ralph

  • Dennis Size

    August 29, 2010 at 4:22 am

    Shoot your scene at night.

    DS

  • Michael Easparam

    August 29, 2010 at 11:11 pm

    If you want everything to look natural, you should work with the reflections. Experiment with the angles required to shoot what you need without seeing the camera setup.

    The hardest part of this will be keeping onlookers from stopping and staring at your setup, causing them to be seen in the reflections.

  • Mark Suszko

    August 30, 2010 at 1:42 pm

    I was wondering why only Todd said “polarizer on the lens”. Cheapest yet most effective method of all of these, IMO.

  • Mark Suszko

    August 30, 2010 at 1:44 pm

    The other trick would be to set up a large sheet of black cloth on stands, just out of shot, and have the windows reflect the black, instead of shiny objects. This is a trick used often in audio recording studio shoots.

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