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  • Let’s Play the FCS3/FCP7 Rumor Game…

    Posted by Dave Mac on June 10, 2008 at 5:47 am

    Well, now that Apple has announced some of its intentions with the next versions of OS X (without the Mac?), let the rumors for the next upgrade to Final Cut Studio begin… 😉

    Apple announced the almost unprecedented decision to spend its resources primarily improving the performance, stability, and security of OS X for the next big release. Also, specifically mentioned was a new version of QuickTime, dubbed “QuickTime X”.

    As much as anything else, save perhaps OpenCL (also announced by Apple), the “reformulation” of QuickTime into QuickTime X has the biggest potential for affecting the next version of FCS, etc. (actually nearly all pro apps, and most of the rest of the apps… this is BIG news)…

    So, I predict that the next version of FCS and other pro apps (not to exclude any others) will be tied to the next version of OS X, dubbed “Snow Leopard”. Apple has stated that “Snow Leopard” will show up in about a year, putting upgrades to FCS and something like “Phenomenon” (if it exists) a few months later.

    And, OpenCL may have a bigger, under-the-hood impact than the new QuickTime (though in a much different sense)…

    No matter what, things are looking good for the summer timeframe next year…

    -Dave

    Paul Dickin replied 17 years, 11 months ago 9 Members · 10 Replies
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  • Steve Connor

    June 10, 2008 at 7:46 am

    Probably not a bad assumption, if it’s true the next FCP should be blazingly fast. I’m prepared to wait,,,,

    Steve Connor
    Adrenalin Television

    Have you tried “Search Posts”? Enlightenment may be there.

  • Peter Wiggins

    June 10, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Qucktime will still exist with QuicktimeX, it is designed for things like the iphone.

    Peter

  • Mitch Ives

    June 10, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    I think you are reading too much into this. Yes, the OS will continue, and as always, any new development in the OS will not have anything to do with FCS. FCS always lags behind and lately, has been held hostage by the barrage of QT updates, most of which introduced problems for FCS… all to benefit of the iToys line. FCP is the single most out-of-date program Apple has… in terms of code, speed and interface. It’s nostalgic at this point.

    As for speed, the only thing that will speed up FCS is a complete re-write to be all native 64 bit. We’ve been wondering in what decade that will arrive… if ever. Apple continues to beat up the developers and tell them that they need to be writing in the native 64 bit… the developers keep pointing to FCS and saying “why… you don’t”.

    Mitch Ives
    Insight Productions Corp.
    mitch@insightproductions.com

  • Mark Suszko

    June 10, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    I’d be happy if they just got the BluRay thing squared away soon. This is hugely important to my shop’s future plans.

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 10, 2008 at 6:44 pm

    [Mark Suszko] “I’d be happy if they just got the BluRay thing squared away soon. This is hugely important to my shop’s future plans.”

    This is solved, you just have to buy Encore.

    I too got excited about the Snow Leopard announcement. On paper it seems to hold the architecture that everyone is clamoring for. It is also an improvement on existing technology instead of adding other whiz bang features that do nothing to improve the lagging problems. Isn’t that what everyone wants?

    Hopefully this will usher in a new ProApps version that will be 64 bit and intel only. That should speed things up tremendously.

  • Brad Bussé

    June 10, 2008 at 6:56 pm

    Fingers crossed. And Apple, please fix the gamma issues that are present in the Quicktime/FCP workflow.

    I love my octo-core 3.2 when I need to run FCP, AE and Shake along with Fusion, but when I have a large FCP project I often wish I could utilize all of the RAM and CPU power. Instead I’m stuck with just a fraction of CPU, and on my first project on my new Mac Pro I ran out of RAM with 20 GB, because FCP can only address ~3.5 GB.

  • Mark Suszko

    June 10, 2008 at 7:45 pm

    [Jeremy Garchow] “This is solved, you just have to buy Encore.”

    That’s not funny at all.

    I need a Blu-capable FCP and DVDSP, PDQ, or TWBB, OK?

  • Jeremy Garchow

    June 10, 2008 at 7:57 pm

    WTF is PDQ and TWBB?

    TTFN

  • Tom Wolsky

    June 10, 2008 at 8:04 pm

    Apple from on high seems to have decided that the disc are dead. Delivery is download and drives viewing via Apple TV. Most of the pros probably didn’t notice but there is no longer a “Share” to DVD function in iMovie. Gone. Share is to web, YouTube, iPod, iPhone, Apple TV and .mac. As long as strategic marketing is driving this we’ll not see more development in disc delivery.

    All the best,

    Tom

    Class on Demand DVDs “Complete Training for FCP6,” “Basic Training for FCS2” and “Final Cut Express Made Easy”
    Author: “Final Cut Pro 5 Editing Essentials” and “Final Cut Express 3.5 HD Editing Workshop”

  • Paul Dickin

    June 10, 2008 at 8:45 pm

    [Peter Wiggins] “Qucktime will still exist with QuicktimeX, it is designed for things like the iphone. “
    Hi
    I get the feeling its the QuickTime file format that’s the millstone that drags down development 🙁

    It seems to me that QT’s file structure is like the old 3/4″ tape paradigm – a timecode track that is still as basic as the tape counter (start time + offset),
    and metadata that’s about a sophisticated as the writing on the box label.
    OK there are ‘control track’ like data tracks as well, and a lot more sound channels these days…

    But no VITC.
    You can’t give a FCP project or FCServer database a Tape name and a Timecode and expect it to recognise the shot in any Capture of footage from that tape. FCP/FCServer have to have a Clip Name because QT can’t recognise the off-tape footage in a global context.

    That means that FCP’s Media Management is currently eternally mangled by being restricted to the U-Matic tape library paradigm.

    Until QT is given a wider VITC-like managed databased structure within which to exist – which can fully comprehend MXF/etc advanced metadata in any form.

    At least the iPhone’s need for GPS metadata may give us cause for real hope…

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